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| Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5900 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes  Speaks: French*, Dutch, German | Message 9 of 64 10 May 2009 at 12:14am | IP Logged | |||||
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Witproduct OF Jbbar
waarom schrijf je niet onder je oorspronkelijke nick, JBBAR????? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ennime Tetraglot Senior Member South Africa universityofbrokengl Joined 5906 days ago 397 posts - 507 votes Speaks: English, Dutch*, Esperanto, Afrikaans Studies: Xhosa, French, Korean, Portuguese, Zulu | Message 10 of 64 10 May 2009 at 6:15am | IP Logged | |||||
That might just be because the Flemish speak better Dutch than the Dutch do ^_^ but seriously... American is not a separate language, it is a collection of a group of dialects with sometimes pronunciations that make it harder to understand. And there is no such thing as "Flemish" as a unified "language" or "dialect". 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Earle Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6317 days ago 276 posts - 276 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Norwegian, Spanish | Message 11 of 64 10 May 2009 at 7:03am | IP Logged | |||||
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"American" and "British" is not a good analogy at all. Americans can understand British who can understand Australians who can understand Kiwis and South Africans. One of the startling things about English is its uniformity, not its diversity. Certainly a rural farmer (yes, some of them aren't "rural") in the American South might have a bit of difficulty understanding some rural English accents, but they'd communicate. And they live thousands of kilometers apart, rather than a few dozen. Think about it...
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| Recht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5803 days ago 241 posts - 270 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB1 | Message 12 of 64 10 May 2009 at 11:02am | IP Logged | |||||
That's the point. The thread starter was commenting on how the language spoken by those from Holland is the exact same as the one spoken by the Flemish, and hence I give an example of a language with similar qualities, intelligible by all. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5900 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes Speaks: French*, Dutch, German | Message 13 of 64 10 May 2009 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Flemish can undertsand Dutch and vice versa when those people speak the standard language: the
pronunciation is evident if the perosn's from NL or B, but it's completely mutually intelligible, therfore the analogy Dutch/Flemihs and british English/American English is ok BUT in Britain there exist other languages e.g. Welsh, which are British but completely spearated of English, and therefore you can't say "British" but must precise "Britsh English". And there exist certain dialects of Flemish, which the other flemish and the Dutch can't understand well: West Flemish, but this is more specific. There's the analogy with French also: the French: Belgian/french/Quebec - are one languages, although like Flemish, not all the things are possible to undertsand, for exmaple Quebec's slang. I agree with witproduct, that flemish and Dutch = one language and that the forum hasn't to have both, especially if it hasn't Scots, Limburgs or others of the disputed dialect/language category. But why witporudct blamed the francophones??? This chauvenism was not nice. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Recht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5803 days ago 241 posts - 270 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB1 | Message 14 of 64 10 May 2009 at 1:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
Everyone knows we were talking about British English, and not Welsh. You could just as easily say "Make sure you're talking about American English and not American Cherokee". Let's not try and nitpick every single post to death, ok? 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5900 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes Speaks: French*, Dutch, German | Message 15 of 64 10 May 2009 at 1:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
I'm not try and nitpick every single post to deaht. Everyone doesn't know "British"= English because it is NOT the same, but in Britain are some more languages, for exmaple welsh and Scottish gaelic, Cornish, also the dialect /language Scots. It's insluting for those people if you say British = English!!!! IT IS NOT THE SAME and everyone doesn't know it because it's wrong. It's like when you wrote why it's necessary that the amercians say "I'm Italian-american" because everyone know it that they're Americans therfore it's like to say: I'm human. It is not liek this, because it's it's evident for americans that they are americans, but for all thworld not at all. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5900 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes Speaks: French*, Dutch, German | Message 16 of 64 10 May 2009 at 1:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
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There are some scottish who visit this forum, for exmaple cainntear and Gibbermeister. Ask those people if British
= English and they will say "NO!!!!!!!!!!!" British = English, welsh, scottish. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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