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| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6624 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes  Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 81 of 87 02 January 2010 at 8:37am | IP Logged | ||
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Hi Mistral!
Welcome to team I. The rest of us have jumped the gun a little and started our TAC logs already. I see you are continuing from an old log. I've been reading a bit of it and it looks like you are probably the most advanced of any of us in Japanese. So I hope you will be able to give the rest of us some good advice on how you got there. Good luck to you! Brun Ugle 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mistral Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5933 days ago 160 posts - 179 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, German | Message 82 of 87 03 January 2010 at 12:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you! I'm not too advanced at Japanese but if you have any questions, I will try to answer them.
Progress: -finished reviewing kanji and vocabulary from Anki. Now I can start adding new. I want to learn 12 kanji every day (with all vocab, readings etc.) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6624 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 83 of 87 03 January 2010 at 1:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks!
I would like to know what methods you have for learning the readings of the kanji. I guess from what you write that you learn reading and writing in one go. I've learned a lot of kanji from Heisig, but that is only writing and meaning. I still have to learn the readings. I've been mostly figuring them out by reading them in context. I am able to guess the readings fairly often, but I wonder if I should use a more systematic approach. Brun Ugle 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mistral Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5933 days ago 160 posts - 179 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, German | Message 84 of 87 03 January 2010 at 9:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Everything depends on your goal. Do you want to take JLPT in the future? If yes, then Heisig is definitely a bad idea.
First of all, I have to say that I'm not a fan of Heisig method. Knowing the meaning doesn't help you too much when you learn even intermediate compounds. 大木 is pretty obvious but those are basics. I wouldn't figure out meaning of 大使 (ambassador - JLPT 3) just by knowing meaning of single kanji. I use this site: http://www.jlpt-kanji.com. You have around 60 compounds for 一 and those are just the most popular ones. What I do is add every unknown to me word to my Anki deck. Front is the word written in hiragana, back is the meaning. After I learn everything what I planned, I complete my kanji deck. Front is kanji, back is meaning and I also have "reading" section here which is the reading for kanji in the front. Every time Anki asks me about kanji, I write it down in my notebook first and then check the answer. So my decks look like: Vocabulary deck: Front:き Back:tree Kanji deck: Front:木 Back:tree Reading:き While doing kanji deck my Anki asks me only about "front" and "back". If I want to see any of those word in context, I use http://dic.yahoo.co.jp Sorry for my poor explanation Progress: -12 new kanji Edited by Mistral on 03 January 2010 at 9:25pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mistral Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5933 days ago 160 posts - 179 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, German | Message 85 of 87 05 January 2010 at 1:42am | IP Logged | ||
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Progress:
-revised some grammar Didn't have time for kanji, didn't for anything. It will be 2AM soon and I still have many things to do so... I'll have to learn those delayed kanji some other day. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| global_gizzy Senior Member United States maxcollege.blogspot. Joined 5707 days ago 275 posts - 310 votes Studies: Spanish | Message 86 of 87 07 January 2010 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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Mistral! Konnichiwa! Sorry this is so late in coming. I just wanted to say Welcome to Team I and I hope we all have great success in studying Japanese this year. I'm an absolute beginner. I learned WHEN to say Konnichiwa yesterday...That was the only thing I feel I learned yesterday *sigh*
I'm going to read your log when I get the chance, since its also a back log. I'm using Pimleur now but after I complete Pimsleur (I'm not sure if I will do all 3 levels or just 1....I'd like to do all three, but I'm going to need transcripts.) I'm thinking of getting Assimil Japanese with Ease AFTER I finish Pimsleur, but I might do it along side with Pim because it has transcripts...I don't know. I'm looking forward to reading your log and learning more about your approach. Thank you for making this log and I just wanted you to know that someone reads and extracts value from it...just in case you were ever in doubt. Please continue to log your progress and methods. When I'm feeling sorry for myself, I like to read logs and see that all my superiors once experienced doubts and frustrations similar to my own. Arrigatou. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6624 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 87 of 87 10 January 2010 at 9:00pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for your help. Actually, I don't really have any intention of taking JLPT. I don't see much use in the lower levels and it's very expensive, especially when you consider how far I'd have to travel to do it. I can understand taking level 1 if you are going to university or looking for a job, but in my case I have no practical use for Japanese, I just like it. Personally, I've found Heisig to be very useful in understanding. I read much more easily after finishing the first book. With a combination of the meanings from Heisig and context, I can understand quite a lot. Thank you for the website. I'll give it a try. I've started making cards like yours, but only the ones with kanji on the front. I think it could be a little difficult going the other way. For example, if it says き on the front, how do you know if the answer is supposed to be 木 or 気 or something else? I do however have cards with sentences written in hiragana on front. I can then tell by context which kanji I should write. Brun Ugle 1 person has voted this message useful |
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