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| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6255 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes  Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch | Message 9 of 21 05 October 2008 at 7:02am | IP Logged | ||
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3EB: You don't need Spanish without Toil and Spanish with Ease. They are the same course, just different generations. While their content may be a bit different, they're going to teach mostly the same level of language; if you were to try and work through both, you'd probably become quite bored.
Get one or the other, and then Using Spanish. Also, keep in mind that while the books for Spanish without Toil, due to their age, may be available quite cheap online, the audio may be another ordeal altogether. Assimil no longer sells Spanish without Toil, and I'm not sure how available the recordings are second-hand. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6255 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch | Message 11 of 21 05 October 2008 at 9:53am | IP Logged | ||
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Not to be difficult, but how exactly do you plan on "shadowing" both the old and new versions of the course, if you only get the book for Spanish without Toil? :-) Shadowing involves listening to the audio and speaking at the same time, obviously.
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| awake Senior Member United States Joined 6445 days ago 406 posts - 438 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Spanish | Message 13 of 21 05 October 2008 at 7:44pm | IP Logged | ||
I think the without toil books would probably be a fine addition to your study scheme. you can usually find them for a very reasonable price. Unfortunately, the audio is very hard to come by. If you can find the recordings that go with the without toil courses I'd say snatch them up (or at least send me a message so i can ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| rafal Diglot Groupie Poland besmart.pl Joined 6663 days ago 83 posts - 85 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Polish*, EnglishC1 Studies: German, Spanish | Message 15 of 21 06 October 2008 at 3:52am | IP Logged | ||
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No, it isn't available anywhere online or I just haven't found it yet. And I haven't seen cassettes but only vinyl recordings for the 1950s course.
Here are my thoughts about making legal copies of old Assimil sound recordings. As for quality of Spanish Without Toil: I have the old Spanisch ohne Mühe, that is a German edition of the same course. It's so much better than the newer, utterly boring With Ease one. It seems harder but it's much more entertaining. Bear in mind that there might be some outdated vocabulary in the older course but even in With Ease, which is originally from 1985 I believe, you'll find el transistor for radio... Edited by rafal on 06 October 2008 at 4:05am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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