Uncle B Pentaglot Newbie Hong Kong Joined 5496 days ago 34 posts - 34 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, Mandarin, English, SpanishB1, Portuguese Studies: German Studies: Italian, French, Catalan
| Message 9 of 28 07 October 2008 at 5:01am | IP Logged |
I think the courses are wasting time because you are limited your talent and you schedule.
I've learned languages by myself for 1 year. During this period, I could learn them freely. Also, you can set the schedule or the procese in a flexible way.
So, I can learn many languages in 1 day, espeacilly in the holidays.
If you are the language lover, it is the best way for you!And I strongly recommend you to study them by yourself!
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5594 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes     Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 10 of 28 07 October 2008 at 5:30am | IP Logged |
One more thing.
He also misses the most common reason for classes failing: most classes are once-a-week evening classes. Over a year, they spend the equivalent of a week or two of full-time study, but with massive gaps in between. The only way to learn efficiently is to learn quickly* -- if you leave too long between lessons you'll spend most of the class revising earlier material and you'll never get anywhere.
* By this I mean relatively quickly. I don't mean in a week, three months, whatever. I mean learning 80-90% of the language in the space of two or three years.
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5855 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes     Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 11 of 28 07 October 2008 at 5:36am | IP Logged |
In my opinion, your real learning is not in the class - it is in the times in between.
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Northstar Newbie China chineseontheairRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5487 days ago 19 posts - 19 votes Speaks: Mandarin*
| Message 12 of 28 07 October 2008 at 10:03am | IP Logged |
William Camden wrote:
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I think you are absolutely right, a Chinese saying says "The master lead you and teach you the basic things and you lead yourself to learn more."
师傅领进门,修行靠个人。
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dutos Newbie Argentina Joined 5496 days ago 35 posts - 35 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 13 of 28 07 October 2008 at 10:26am | IP Logged |
Great expression Northstar!!
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Erubey Triglot Groupie United States Joined 5813 days ago 82 posts - 92 votes  Speaks: Spanish*, English, Japanese Studies: Mandarin
| Message 14 of 28 07 October 2008 at 2:47pm | IP Logged |
All classes tell you straight out you need to do work outside the class for the class to actually serve you at all. Its not their fault barely anybody does it. He should just rename the article to "Why lazy people can't learn languages" and that's all you need to say.
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Deecab Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5544 days ago 106 posts - 108 votes  Speaks: English, Korean* Studies: Mandarin
| Message 15 of 28 07 October 2008 at 6:10pm | IP Logged |
The reason language class may not work is time factor. Classes just feel too much like a job. Go to class, do your writing homework that teacher assigns and study by yourself on your time. That doesn't sound fun.
If you study by yourself, you can handle time better and know when would be the best time to study. Sometimes our schedule in life changes. Language classes eliminate such spontaneous cycle.
How about doing a bit of studying, then talking to native, listen to some music, drama, and TV show in the language. Sounds much more fun and encouraging to me.
Having fun is important when learning languages. I can be learning hard language like Polish but if I have fun, I would not be shocked to learn it faster than I learn Spanish, a language that's often said to be the easiest for English native.
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Alvinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5817 days ago 828 posts - 832 votes    Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish
| Message 16 of 28 10 October 2008 at 11:18am | IP Logged |
I have a huge experience over language classes involving groups......honestly I cannot get along well with some classmates.....that's why nowadays I'd rather take private classes....I can speak out whatever I want and then there's no anyone staring at you angrily...
However, I've acquired more words by studying on my own.....
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