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| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5844 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes  Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 81 of 86 24 July 2009 at 5:49pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Hencke. Yes you are right, I wasn't paying attention. :-(
The examples from KidsWannaRock were better than mine actually. And I agree with her about the pronounciation of tj, of course. Edited by cordelia0507 on 24 July 2009 at 5:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| tricoteuse Pentaglot Senior Member Norway littlang.blogspot.co Joined 6684 days ago 745 posts - 845 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Norwegian, EnglishC1, Russian, French Studies: Ukrainian, Bulgarian | Message 82 of 86 24 July 2009 at 10:29pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
It can also depend on the word and what letters surround the r. For example, in "sommarstuga" it turns into ш together with the s, together with d it merges into another sound as well, like in for example "bord". Well actually this is a case of retroflex consonants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroflex_consonant), I just remembered that I read about it somewhere and that a lot of the examples were Swedish. Some places up north "r" can be pronounced like a hard "l" as well.
I certainly do not use the same sound for that word! I pronounce it "jänäralisera". Edited by tricoteuse on 24 July 2009 at 10:34pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5844 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 83 of 86 25 July 2009 at 1:32am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Well I also say Liiiiiidingö, remember? ;-) (And usually "e" for "ä" 08, yeah! ... ) And I have some more similiar sins to my name too... But hopefully my "extremsossiga" rants in the other thread proves that this goes no further than speech (which is hard to change). But seriously, I had no idea that this word could be said with a J. I completely trust you though, after seeing your awesome Norwegian in the Norway thread. :-) After Iversen, you are the Scandinavian language guru on the forum. The difference in pronounciation of a word like this proves the point that about the "free pronounciation". Anyway, one more point: It's a pity Swedish doesn't have the Ж sound. I think it's a beautiful sound, and the letter is pretty too... (This thread got hijacked by the Vikings, lol!!) Edited by cordelia0507 on 25 July 2009 at 1:44am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| tricoteuse Pentaglot Senior Member Norway littlang.blogspot.co Joined 6684 days ago 745 posts - 845 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Norwegian, EnglishC1, Russian, French Studies: Ukrainian, Bulgarian | Message 84 of 86 25 July 2009 at 9:25am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Holy crap! I didn't know you where from Lidingö! ;) Speaking of "e", I know two jokes in Swedish. This is one of them (it really should be SPOKEN though): (Stockolmare) - Hej, jag skulle vilja köpa lite reker. - Reker?? (Stockolmare) - Jaa, sådana man eter. - Maneter??
Thank you :D And yes, I agree, Swedish pronunciation is and SHOULD be rather free.
Also completely agree here. The lack of any z-sound in Swedish messes up my pronunciation in all other languages! I just forget it exists. I love Russian Ж.
We were taking over the world, weren't we? :D 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5915 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 85 of 86 25 July 2009 at 10:01am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Shhh don't TELL THEM. o.O 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| KidsWannaRock Diglot Newbie Sweden Joined 5610 days ago 23 posts - 24 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Spanish | Message 86 of 86 25 July 2009 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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I pronounce Generalisera like cordelia0507 said(wrote ;)). I don't know if it's because I'm from Stockholm.
Retroflex consonants are pretty cool too. :P They exist in Norwegian and Swedish. "Retroflex consonants are relatively rare among European languages"(from wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroflex 1 person has voted this message useful |
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