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Raistlin Majere
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 Message 1 of 51
29 October 2005 at 3:59pm | IP Logged 
In countries with 99%-100% litteracy rate, what do you think is the percentage of people who are polyglots (here, I consider polyglots as people who speak more languages than most people around them)?
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29 October 2005 at 4:32pm | IP Logged 
It's not an easy question to answer.

In Sweden, for example, I wouldn't say it's uncommon for someone to speak three or more languages, but relatively few in the US do. So do Swedes have to know 3-4+ to be considered polyglots while Americans only have to know 2-3? Hmm.

At least where I live in the US, I'd say that someone who knows two languages speaks more than most people around him, so he'd be a polyglot according to your definition. I know about ten bi- or multilingual people, three of whom were exchange students and five of whom are language teachers. During a year in Sweden, I met about two people who were NOT at least bilingual.

Overall, I'd make a completely wild guess of about 2% of any given population being polyglots who learn languages based on interest rather than necessity or circumstance. All polyglots totaled up might be more like 10 or even 15%, but maybe far more or less depending on the country.
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 Message 3 of 51
29 October 2005 at 5:38pm | IP Logged 
This is indeed a difficult question.

I think that it would be quite hard to try and determine any specific figures since there would be so many factors involved, not least of which what country/region is being considered, as mentioned by Sierra.
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30 October 2005 at 5:07am | IP Logged 
Sierra wrote:
So do Swedes have to know 3-4+ to be considered polyglots while Americans only have to know 2-3? Hmm.


I would say that in Sweden people are probably not impressed until you know at least 4 languages. It is assumed that everyone speaks at least English. Furthermore most people study either french or German in school. So many people in sweden have at least some competence in 3 languages. Of course many of us (me included :-( ) forget a lot of our school German since we never practice it.
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31 October 2005 at 3:13pm | IP Logged 
It seems we're going into the "how-many-languages-to-be-a-polyglot" discussion again. What I meant is that it is not as difficult for someone to know three languages in Luxembourg, Sweden and countries such as these as for a person from a monolingual country to be bilingual.
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01 November 2005 at 3:13am | IP Logged 
The European Union recently released (26th September) a survey on Europeans and Languages. While not aimed specifically at polyglottery, it makes for interesting reading in looking at the percentages within European countries that are willing to confess to no knowledge whatsoever of a non-native tongue.

The PDF is here.

What I found interesting is that the UK is not bottom. Apparently, 30% of the UK population "can speak at least one other language than their mother tongue at the level of being able to have a conversation".

Although I'm looking for "the people who speak more languages than most people around them" and although that number of languages for most is invariably "one" in the UK and the "more than" figure is "two", I'd still have great difficulty in finding the 30% .... in fact I'd probably have great difficulty in finding 3%.

As I survey my vast panorama of acquaintances, co-workers and friends, I find me, my dad (doing advanced French & Italian), my nephew (studying French at university), my mate's fiancée (but she's French so doesn't count, two of my co-workers (but one's German and the other's Italian so they don't count) and ...... er....that's it. Quite depressing really.

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01 November 2005 at 6:01am | IP Logged 
Maybe some people you know have hidden talents :)

Half the people I know aren't aware that I speak pretty good Swedish. Also, I recently found out that my gym teacher, absolutely the last person in the world I would have expected it from, was in the Peace Corps and speaks fluent Spanish and French. Granted, it may not be as high as thirty percent, but some number of your acquaintances may know languages which you don't know they know simply because the subject has never come up.
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 Message 8 of 51
01 November 2005 at 9:02pm | IP Logged 
Sierra wrote:
Maybe some people you know have hidden talents :)
Definitely!

I am reluctant to post a story here, but I feel that it fits the topic and the quote nicely.

While at school, I have discovered that my Math teacher is Persian and speaks the language fluently. She also speaks German.

In my English class, we had a substitute teacher from Lebanon. I had said something in my constructed language to a particularly annoying girl and she complained to the teacher that "Michael is speaking in different languages!" The teacher asked me if I was speaking Arabic -- she must have seen my last name on the roll call ("Ayoub").

et cetera

EDIT: "In my English,"? Added "class"

Edited by Mga on 03 November 2005 at 7:41pm



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