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| mike789 Newbie United States Joined 6132 days ago 39 posts - 51 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 9 of 19 24 May 2009 at 5:16am | IP Logged | |||||
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Thanks for the help and suggestions. I really want to make this work!
After lesson 15 in my book (Italian) it says
Is the idea that you've just read it in Italian and understand it in that language, now you try to act as if you're saying it on your own? I've started trying it after coming to that part in the book, and for me at least it is hard; definitely not "without toil". From what people have posted, it doesn't sound like they're doing this part. So what do you think? Good idea, or just concentrate on understanding what I hear and read? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5714 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 10 of 19 24 May 2009 at 11:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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Definitely read each lesson out loud trying to imitate how Italian is spoken as best as you can. If you don't do this you'll only learn grammar and reading but will never speak it. Give it your best shot, try to correct pronunciation where you're able, and gradually it will improve.
I don't repeat it myself, I'm not sure that's necessary, but if you want to try that then by all means go ahead. I know Assimil's "trust us" teaching style can make you feel like you're on unstable ground sometimes, so I'm glad this isn't my first Assimil course, I can know that what they're doing is actually effective. Pronunciation can be hard at first, which is why it's so important that you read the lessons aloud, just do your best, you don't need to be perfect. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| staf250 Pentaglot Senior Member Belgium emmerick.be Joined 5502 days ago 352 posts - 414 votes Speaks: French, Dutch*, Italian, English, German Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 11 of 19 24 May 2009 at 1:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
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When I'm not able to repeat the whole sentence, I'll do it in two times.
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| Kegel Diglot Groupie Germany Joined 6244 days ago 67 posts - 70 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 12 of 19 24 May 2009 at 2:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
I try to repeat every sentence (or every group of sentences), but it tends to have something of learning the sentence by heart, which is actually the main reason why I'm currently not very motivated to do my next Assimil lesson. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5714 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 13 of 19 24 May 2009 at 2:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
I don't think they mean for you to do that. Assimil is not a phrasebook or a memorisation tool. I think they just ask you to do that to see if you can string together the same meaning in Italian right after without looking, but I would save this for the second wave myself. It should be fun, mate! So if it's not, then stop doing it that way ;-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| coyote Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6047 days ago 32 posts - 34 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French | Message 14 of 19 28 May 2009 at 6:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I follow this procedure with Assimil:
1- Listen to the audio a couple of times to get the rhythm in my head. 2- Listen to the audio and read target language text, silently. 3- Listen to the audio and read target language text, aloud. 4- Translate text. 5- Study notes. 6- Listen to audio, without reading, for comprehension. 7- Listen to audio, without reading, and repeat text aloud. 8- Do exercises. Steps 1-3 and 6-7 are repeated as many times as necessary for results. I can usually finish a lesson in around 30 minutes. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kegel Diglot Groupie Germany Joined 6244 days ago 67 posts - 70 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 15 of 19 01 June 2009 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | |||||
I guess you are right. I've already stopped wanting to repeat a group of sentences (all that are collected under one number) by heart because it really became too tedious. There's a bit of a contradiction in the instructions in my opinion. On the one hand you're supposed to 'assimilate' it, do it "with ease", on the other hand they tell you not to go on to the next unit before you have completely "mastered" a unit. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5714 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 16 of 19 01 June 2009 at 8:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I know, they do contradict themselves. They said something in one of the latter lessons of Italian With Ease about 'adapting' sentences 'to your language', which is a load of tosh, cause you don't start bringing in L1 in lesson 70, it should be left behind as much as possible by then. Oh well. It's possible that not all the writers drank the kool-aid, so there are remnants of weirdness in there every once in a while. I just ignore them.
From what I've seen it's fine to skip ahead, then review every once in a while, rather than getting stuck on one lesson cause you don't want to move on until you're 'done' with it. It's not a perfect course, but it's a very good one, if we use it the way we want, so as long as you figure out what makes it fun and educational for you then you'll get as much out of it as you can - which is a lot! :-) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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