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Aquila123 Tetraglot Senior Member Norway mydeltapi.com Joined 5310 days ago 201 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: Finnish, Russian
| Message 89 of 96 23 August 2013 at 12:34pm | IP Logged |
The most phonetic language might be Georgian, which also has its own alphabet. The languages has an easy noun declension, but an intricate verbal conjugation and rules for use of cases that any real nerd will love. It is a polysynthetic language which also carries a rich cultural heritage.
By the way, most polysynthetic languages are written phonemically, for example also Navajo and Swahili. Modern Greek and Italian are also tending towards polysythetism, even though pronominal affixes often are written separately. Italian is written nearly phonemically.
Edited by Aquila123 on 23 August 2013 at 8:07pm
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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4672 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 90 of 96 23 August 2013 at 7:13pm | IP Logged |
Croatian is pretty phonetic.
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| showtime17 Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Slovakia gainweightjournal.co Joined 6088 days ago 154 posts - 210 votes Speaks: Russian, English*, Czech*, Slovak*, French, Spanish Studies: Ukrainian, Polish, Dutch
| Message 91 of 96 08 September 2013 at 6:08pm | IP Logged |
Czech and Slovak are both very phonetic.
I think with this statement I won the entire discussion :) :) :)
Edited by showtime17 on 08 September 2013 at 6:15pm
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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4051 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch
| Message 92 of 96 27 May 2014 at 11:40am | IP Logged |
Aquila123 wrote:
Modern Greek and Italian are also tending towards polysythetism, even
though pronominal affixes often are written separately. |
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I, can you argumentate more this sentence? Do you have link, examples etc?
I don't know anything about greek but I'm Italian and it would be really interesting to
know more about it.
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6707 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 93 of 96 27 May 2014 at 12:06pm | IP Logged |
The most phonetic language in Europe must be Serbian, which has not one, but TWO reasonably phonetical alphabets. Its competitors like Croatian just have one. However to compensate for the simplicity of both alphabets the language itself has a lot of irregularities, and it is irritating that grammars have all quotes written twice.
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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4672 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 94 of 96 28 May 2014 at 12:22pm | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
The most phonetic language in Europe must be Serbian, which has not one, but TWO reasonably phonetical alphabets. Its competitors like Croatian just have one. However to compensate for the simplicity of both alphabets the language itself has a lot of irregularities, and it is irritating that grammars have all quotes written twice. |
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I think Macedonian is more phonetic than Serbian,
Serbian (just like Croatian and Bosnian) has a pitch accent,
but it does not mark it in spelling (unlike northern Vietnamese
which marks tonal values with diacritics).
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6707 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 95 of 96 28 May 2014 at 1:43pm | IP Logged |
You may be right, but the point is that Serbian is reasonably phonetical in two different alphabets - the others may be more phonetical, but only with reference to one alphabet.
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| Aquila123 Tetraglot Senior Member Norway mydeltapi.com Joined 5310 days ago 201 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: Finnish, Russian
| Message 96 of 96 10 June 2014 at 5:58pm | IP Logged |
Polysynthetic tendencies in modern Greek and Italian
The point is that in each verb form the enclitic pronouns, adverbs and auxiliary verbs behave like affixes to the verb. They come in a fixed order according to a strict template and they often merge togeather or change shape according to the surroundings.
There is a rather heavy article about it on the net about Greek, but I cannot see that Italian is much different.
http://www.linguistik-online.de/34_08/charitonidis.pdf
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