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| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6256 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes  Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch | Message 1 of 13 01 June 2009 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm a bit confused over a sentence in the Assimil Spanish with Ease course. I think there's an error in it, but I wanted to check here before correcting it.
In lesson 19. there's this sentence: Spanish original: Le telefoneaba para saber si esta tarde podía venir a ver a mij hijo. English translation: I was phoning her (for) to know if this evening she would be able to come to see my son. Shouldn't it be "la telefoneaba...", as the pronoun is referring to a female doctor? I know that the indirect object form of "ella" is "le", but telefonear is used in its transitive sense in this sentence, isn't it? In which case, the pronoun should be in the direct object form, which is "la." Am I right about this, or am I misunderstanding something? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Javi Senior Member Spain Joined 5791 days ago 419 posts - 548 votes Speaks: Spanish* | Message 2 of 13 01 June 2009 at 11:29pm | IP Logged | ||
It is alright as intransitive, but no one says telefonear nowadays, at least here in Spain, so it shouldn't be in the course. Seriously, I haven't said that word in my entire live. You could say 'llamar (a alguien) (por teléfono)' and 'hacer una llamada'. Cheers. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 6825 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 13 02 June 2009 at 5:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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Using "le" is fine since it's formal. Perhaps adding "usted" might help you to see it better, i.e.
"Le telefoneaba a usted para saber si esta tarde podía venir a ver a mi hijo." Javi's right, though, "telefonear" does sound odd and I've only heard it said as a joke. Edited by patuco on 02 June 2009 at 5:03pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Javi Senior Member Spain Joined 5791 days ago 419 posts - 548 votes Speaks: Spanish* | Message 4 of 13 02 June 2009 at 6:03pm | IP Logged | ||
There is an entry in the DPD for it:
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| Ajijic10 Diglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 6725 days ago 161 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 5 of 13 03 June 2009 at 7:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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Here where I live in Mexico you almost always hear the Direct Object pronoun used when "calling someone". "La llamé ayer." "I called her yesterday." "Lo llamé ayer" "I called him yesterday." "Los llamé ayer" "I called them yesterday"
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| TheBiscuit Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5733 days ago 532 posts - 619 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Croatian | Message 6 of 13 04 June 2009 at 5:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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Where I live you hear llamar sometimes but mostly you hear hablar. Le hablo ahorita - I'll call him/her/usted in a minute. I've never heard telefonear. People say echame un telefonazo or echame un grito sometimes.
Is that Assimil 1959?
Remember le can mean to him/to her and to usted. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| readical Newbie Germany Joined 5548 days ago 11 posts - 11 votes Speaks: German* | Message 7 of 13 05 June 2009 at 9:41am | IP Logged | ||
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"Telefonear" is also used in the German edition which was printed in 2004.
It seems to be quite outdated: the recordings and the text still contain the currency of pesetas (though with an annotation in the text that Spain now has the Euro) and the map of Spain lists an old structure of the Spanish provinces (Castilla la Vieja for example). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| TheBiscuit Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5733 days ago 532 posts - 619 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Croatian | Message 8 of 13 09 June 2009 at 7:25pm | IP Logged | ||
Because of the cognate telefonieren? Do people use that in German or is anrufen more common? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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