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 Message 65 of 509
03 January 2010 at 4:36pm | IP Logged 
FAQ-NL: Meaning of 'Lang niet alle winters'?

With the cold weather in The Netherlands, there is increasing expectation of a possible Elfstedentocht this year (the 11-town skating race on natural ice).

The Wikipedia article includes the following sentence: 'Lang niet alle winters wordt de tocht gehouden'. The sentence generally means 'The race (or trip) has not been held every winter'. But that could be written something like 'Niet alle winters wordt de tocht gehouden' To me, the meaning 'Lang' is not clear. It could mean 'for a long time', or maybe 'along' or something like 'over the long term'.

Could a native Dutch-language speaker comment on this usage of 'lang'?

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 Message 66 of 509
03 January 2010 at 4:46pm | IP Logged 
You also have 'het accident' :D, so 3 words to confuse!
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 Message 67 of 509
03 January 2010 at 5:10pm | IP Logged 
tommus wrote:
FAQ-NL: Meaning of 'Lang niet alle winters'?

Could a native Dutch-language speaker comment on this usage of 'lang'?


It's difficult to translate this into English. It does not mean 'for a long time', 'along' or 'over the long term'.
I looked it up in my Van Dale. It means 'far from, not nearly'.
Lang niet elke winter = far from every winter

I hope it helps!

EDIT: Here in Flanders we usually say 'belange nie!' Maybe it's interesting to know, when you're talking with some Flemish.

Edited by Vinbelgium on 04 January 2010 at 8:47am

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 Message 68 of 509
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Vinbelgium wrote:
I looked it up in my Van Dale. It means 'far from, not nearly'.
Lang niet elke winter = far from every winter

OK. Thanks. Now it makes perfect sense, since it occurs very infrequently, only 15 times since it started in 1909. The last one was 1997.


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 Message 69 of 509
03 January 2010 at 8:39pm | IP Logged 
Vinbelgium wrote:
EDIT: Here in Flanders we usually say 'belange nie!' Maybe it's interesting to know, when you're talking with a Flemish.

Het woord is 'Fleming'. :P
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03 January 2010 at 9:31pm | IP Logged 
elvisrules wrote:
Vinbelgium wrote:
EDIT: Here in Flanders we usually say 'belange nie!' Maybe it's interesting to know, when you're talking with a Flemish.

Het woord is 'Fleming'. :P


Check Wikipedia: The Flemish or Flemings. Het zijn synoniemen.
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 Message 71 of 509
04 January 2010 at 2:31am | IP Logged 
"Flemish" is fine, but only in the plural, like your example. "Fleming" can be singular or plural.
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 Message 72 of 509
04 January 2010 at 11:32am | IP Logged 
OK I apologize, just sounds strange to me.


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