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Jimmymac
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 Message 1 of 13
11 December 2009 at 1:27pm | IP Logged 
After doing a degree in Psychology I became massively interested in Hypnosis and suggestibility. The other month I was reading a book on hypnosis and it suddenly occurred to me that listening to some hypnosis audios would be a charming way to improve your listening skills while getting some much needed relaxation in. I found a couple of free hypnosis audios on the internet in French and was surprised at how much I understood. whether you believe in the effects of hypnosis or not at the very least you'll get some decent listening practise in and be Bob-Marley-styled-chilled.

Free Audio

Edited by Jimmymac on 11 December 2009 at 1:31pm

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cordelia0507
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 Message 2 of 13
11 December 2009 at 7:29pm | IP Logged 
Cool idea, thanks for sharing it. Opens up all sorts of interesting possibilities.
Frankly I must say I thought that the fixation on hypnosis was largely an American and possibly British thing.. It wouldn't even have occurred to me to look for it in another language. Has anyone else come across such material in other European languages?
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Hencke
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 Message 3 of 13
11 December 2009 at 8:32pm | IP Logged 
Ha, what happens when the time comes around to wake you up from your deep hypnotic slumber and the vocabulary of that part of the recording is beyond your current skills in the target language? ;o)

But seriously, I agree it's a cool idea. I'll have a go at some point.

Edited by Hencke on 11 December 2009 at 8:32pm

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Jimmymac
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 Message 4 of 13
11 December 2009 at 8:50pm | IP Logged 
cordelia0507 wrote:
Cool idea, thanks for sharing it. Opens up all sorts of interesting possibilities.
Frankly I must say I thought that the fixation on hypnosis was largely an American and possibly British thing.. It wouldn't even have occurred to me to look for it in another language. Has anyone else come across such material in other European languages?


Actually, if you look into the study of hypnosis and trance you'll see that hypnotic phenomena, as seen from a western stand point, is prevelant in many non-western societies. And hypnotism as we know it has stronger roots in France and other parts of Europe than the UK and the US. Unfortunately, as you rightly point out, this ridiculous notion of hypnosis solving all problems is far more popular in the UK and US for some reason. Having said that, Spain is quickly catching up when it comes to the comercialisation of hypnosis.
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BartoG
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 Message 5 of 13
02 January 2010 at 8:16pm | IP Logged 
As a certified (but not practicing; I took the course for personal interest) hypnotist, I've been skeptical of hypnosis for language learning. It's fine for clearing mental blocks or bad study habits, but language itself, I think, is to complex to just be thrummed into the brain, and besides you need language at a conscious, not unconscious level. Nonetheless, I got some French hypnosis downloads and a Spanish meditation CD to try.

When you're in hypnosis, your brain wave activity typically slides into the theta range. One of the biggest challenges for inducing hypnosis by relaxation, indeed, is making sure the person doesn't just keep sliding all the way down into delta - asleep! Theta is that daydreamy state where you're not quite asleep at night or not quite awake in the morning, and it's the state you're in when dreams start. I don't think you can really learn anything in this state. But you can consolidate information and it's a place where your brain can try out things before implementing them in real life. The tricky part, though, is that your language already has to be good enough that you can let the suggestions filter in without anxiety about not understanding interfering with getting into a trance state. (I noticed with Spanish, my 3rd language and not a great one for me, that I had to listen to the same session several times before the sound of the words was familiar enough that I could stop listening for comprehension.)

My thoughts, based on my own experience: For learning a language, it's better to be awake and energized. But if you find value in "dreaming" in your target language - and most people do - then when you know enough to understand a visualization exercise in that target language you'll be able to dream in it any time you want, albeit according to someone else's script.
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Sennin
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 Message 6 of 13
02 January 2010 at 8:37pm | IP Logged 
I find it suspicious this hypnotist guy has a free seance... maybe it brings the subliminal message to buy the rest of his stuff! ^_^. Anyway, I will try this "séance confiance en soi". Hopefully, no mal effects will follow...
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cordelia0507
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 Message 7 of 13
02 January 2010 at 10:22pm | IP Logged 
Haha Sennin...

Actually I think he's giving valuable information. I relate to what he's saying and I think I experience that state from time to time and have some constructive thoughts which are helpful later on. Thanks Bartog for taking the time to share that information.

He's basically saying that you can't really learn a language from hypnosis...
Plus you couldn't spend several hours a day in hypnosis anyway... It would be unpractical.

I think I mentioned it before, but in my teens I had friends who swore that it helped their language studies to listen to language material while sleeping. If noting else, they practically hypnothised themselves into believing in this.

I'd be distracted if the material was partly in English though, like Pimsleur, for example. It would have to be in Swedish and the target language, or just the target language.

Edited by cordelia0507 on 02 January 2010 at 10:23pm

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novemberain
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 Message 8 of 13
03 January 2010 at 2:49am | IP Logged 
cordelia0507 wrote:
Cool idea, thanks for sharing it. Opens up all sorts of interesting
possibilities.
Frankly I must say I thought that the fixation on hypnosis was largely an American and
possibly British thing.. It wouldn't even have occurred to me to look for it in another
language. Has anyone else come across such material in other European languages?


For Italian, I found Manuale di autoipnosi.
I have to try it some day.


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