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| Rikyu-san Diglot Senior Member Denmark Joined 5530 days ago 213 posts - 413 votes  Speaks: Danish*, English Studies: German, French | Message 17 of 107 21 February 2010 at 11:23am | IP Logged | ||
I did a brief search for Sami language resources but I am not sure what I found was useful. Do you suggest that we group the Norwegian language resources in Nynorsk and Bokmål? If this makes sense, I wonder if there are language resources that can be used for both. In that case I would create three categories for Norwegian - Nynorsk, Bokmål and a common category (suggestions for what we should call this category are welcome). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Rikyu-san Diglot Senior Member Denmark Joined 5530 days ago 213 posts - 413 votes Speaks: Danish*, English Studies: German, French | Message 18 of 107 21 February 2010 at 11:25am | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for the suggestions. Is this a paysite or a free site? Or is the DVD one can buy optional? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 6127 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 19 of 107 21 February 2010 at 11:44am | IP Logged | ||
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Everything on the site is free including the videos and Finnish transcripts for the movies. It is possible to use this course legally without paying any money. The DVD is optional.
Apparently there's also a textbook, but I haven't used this myself. The entire site is Finnish, but the material is beginner level. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 20 of 107 21 February 2010 at 3:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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I know that there are some very good learning material for Swedish in the languages that lots of immigrants (past or present) to Sweden speak. So if you are not a native English speaker, you can still find good, cheap and efficient material --- particularly if you already speak one of:
1) Finnish (of course!!!) 2) German (they learn Swedish fast and well.... the material must be good..) 3) Serbocroatian 4) Spanish 5) Turkish 6) Arabic 7) Farsi 8) Polish 9) Russian Edited by cordelia0507 on 21 February 2010 at 3:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5455 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 21 of 107 21 February 2010 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | ||
Grouping Nynorsk and Bokmål together is not a bad idea as these two written standards together with the dialects constitute contemporary Norwegian. I don't think there are many resources for learning Nynorsk that are directed at foreigners. There must be tons of Nynorsk materials made for Norwegian high school students however. Einar Haguen's Norwegian-English dictionary contains both Nynorsk and Bokmål entries. I guess it's Introduction is interesting reading for English speaking students of Norwegian. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| davidwelsh Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5531 days ago 141 posts - 307 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, Norwegian, Esperanto, Swedish, Danish, French Studies: Polish, Sanskrit, Tibetan, Pali, Mandarin | Message 22 of 107 22 February 2010 at 10:33am | IP Logged | ||
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Northern Sámi Resources:
Davvin 1 Correspondence Course (in Norwegian) with similar courses available for Davvin 2-4 Gulahalan (free online course in Swedish) Cugu (Sámi/Swedish website aimed at children) Rosas bondgård (Swedish website for children available in several lanuages, including Sámi) Risten (The Norwegian Sámi Parliament's online dictionary and terminology database) Encyclopaedia of Saami Culture Infonuorra (some words and phrases in Northern, Southern and Lule Sámi) Čalliid Lágádus Publishers Kara Libris Online bookshop Davvi Girji Publishers NRK Samisk (Online TV in Sámi from Norway's state broadcaster) 6 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Woodpecker Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5813 days ago 351 posts - 590 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Arabic (classical) | Message 23 of 107 22 February 2010 at 11:17am | IP Logged | ||
My understanding is that the difference is in terms of focus. Conversation is basically all about interacting with the dialogues, the normal course places more of an emphasis on grammar. I think they're supposed to complement each other. They are by the same author. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| OlafP Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5437 days ago 261 posts - 667 votes Speaks: German*, French, English | Message 24 of 107 22 February 2010 at 2:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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http://www.sr.se/
has more Swedish podcasts and radio streams than anyone should need. http://swedia.ling.gu.se/ provides more than 4h of recordings in Swedish dialects along with transcriptions. "Grund- und Aufbauwortschatz Schwedisch: 9000 Wörter zu mehr als 100 Themen" by Lothar Adelt, Buske Verlag 2009, ISBN 978-3875485332 is a book with, as the name says, a vocabulary of about 9000 Swedisch words for German speakers. There are plenty of examples in the book, warnings about false friends and pointers to other sections if a word has more than one meaning. The book comes with a CD ROM that contains all the content in PDF format. The pointers are clickable hyperlinks in the PDF version. I'd like to say something about the Assimil course "Schwedisch ohne Mühe". I don't know whether it is representative for the majority of Assimil courses, and I can compare it only to "Le Russe", which already is the reviewed and improved version of the Russian course that got torn apart by everyone who bought it. Maybe with the Swedish and the Russian courses I was just (un)lucky to pick two extreme examples of the product line. The Swedish course is definitely different than the rest, considering the fact that it seems to come in two volumes, but that's not true. The first "volume" contains the book with all 100 lessons and only recordings of the first 50 lessons. They still come on 4 CDs, so that every CD has a recording time of about 25min. You have to buy the second "volume" with 4 more CDs that contain the other 50 lessons. Both "volumes" sell for the price of a full course. As a result, the Swedish course costs twice as much as any other. It still is worth the money, because it is 4 times as good as the Russian one. The course introduces vocabulary at rapid pace. It's hard to believe, but I counted the new words before I started several lessons, and you get about 35 to 45 new words in each of them. This would sum up to about 4000 words. The lesson texts are about three times as long as the ones in the Russian course, which has an index at the end, whereas the Swedish one has none. I calculated the vocabulary of the Russian course based on this index to about 1700 words, which again indicates that the Swedish course should get you well beyond the 3000 mark. Swedish is an easy language to learn for German speakers, but due to the vocabulary input you need some stamina to finish one lesson per day. I always write down every lesson, only listening to the recording, in order to remember all vocabulary. If you want to finish one lesson per day, you have to invest about 1h daily, otherwise you won't digest everything. The texts are written by someone who knows how to write. I'm halfway through the book and still have to find one text that I would call bad. In the Russian course I'm beyond lesson 50, even though I started 3 weeks later, and still have to find one text that I would call good. The texts in the Swedish version are intelligent and funny, the ones in the Russion course are stupid and embarrassing. With half of the lessons under the belt, I must have aquired almost 2000 words within 6 weeks, if my calculation is correct. This allows me to understand about 80% of the lyrics in songs by Nordman without the need to look them up on the net. I leave it to the judgement of the reader whether this is another point for Assimil or one against Nordman. Up to lesson 30 the book seems to be free of errors, but after that it hits you hard. There are obvious grammar mistakes in the exercises, once the lesson text contains a different word that what you hear in the recording, in one lesson there are several lines missing in the translation. This is annoying, but when the errors set in you know the language already well enough to spot them. The course hasn't been revised since the 80s (the Soviet Union still exists). Let's hope they won't correct the errors, because then the course may end up like the Russian one. The danger is real, since you can find complaints by whining wimps at amazon along the lines of: "This is too hard for me!!! Meeeeh!!!" To cut a long story short, "Schwedisch ohne Mühe" is probably the best you can get if you know German at least reasonably well. I also bought a Swedish grammar of about 120 pages, and these two things should be sufficient to get a firm foundation. 6 persons have voted this message useful |
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