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bushwick
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 Message 25 of 65
01 May 2010 at 12:52pm | IP Logged 
Sorry, but the general amount of support for this is really surprising me.

Is honestly your only goal now to surpass Mezzofanti? If your only desire in learning languages is surpass a record, then I would find those 23,000 hours on learning basically wasted. Mezzofanti didn't hunt after a big number I am sure, he had an express desire in what he was learning. (EDIT; now I also checked the languages he knew, which had a big religious signifance)

Set your priorities, and more so your reasons.

Edited by bushwick on 01 May 2010 at 12:54pm

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Emerald
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 Message 26 of 65
01 May 2010 at 1:07pm | IP Logged 
bushwick wrote:
Sorry, but the general amount of support for this is really
surprising me.

Is honestly your only goal now to surpass Mezzofanti? If your only desire in learning
languages is surpass a record, then I would find those 23,000 hours on learning
basically wasted. Mezzofanti didn't hunt after a big number I am sure, he had an
express desire in what he was learning. (EDIT; now I also checked the languages he
knew, which had a big religious signifance)

Set your priorities, and more so your reasons.


Different things motivate different people. I agree that for many people learning to
beat a record may not be a reason enough - however for truly competitive people it can
be. Also, I would assume that if Akao wasn't interested in languages, he wouldn't be
aiming for this. If it was ONLY about record, there are many things he can pick.

But regardless, being supportive is not limited to someone's motivation. If someone
wants to learn 40 languages - whatever their reason - it is only a good thing to
support them. Especially because I believe at 13, it is realistic, assuming Akao's
motivation sticks with him through his life and desire/ability to work hard.
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Emerald
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 Message 27 of 65
01 May 2010 at 1:11pm | IP Logged 
Akao wrote:

Lol.

I had hoped to have started younger though, if I started around 8 or 9 I'd be
proficient in at least one language already, that would be such a head start...

Anyway, this brings up another problem. Do you think my guitar will interfere with my
language learning?


You will have to be realistic with your goals and the time/resources you have
available. Also, you are 13. So I assume you want to go to college? What are you going
to study? Just languages or do you want another degree? What about social life? Usual
teenage things? Girlfriends/Boyfriends etc.

For now, I think you have the time to focus on all of it - but perhaps not in 2-3 years
time when there would be other things in your life. It is not impossible - but if you
want to devote your life to one MAIN area, you would have to sacrifice other things.

Also, remember that goals are not set in stone. Set them now, for the person you are
today. But as you grow as a person, new experiences, new priorities, might give you new
goals. But you have to start with where you are today, instead of worrying about where
you might be in 20 years time.
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Akao
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 Message 28 of 65
01 May 2010 at 1:40pm | IP Logged 
Actually, I do have time for a social life. I never said I would actually BE a language
"monk." I'm also in a nice relationship and getting a band together. :)

@bush

Like Emerald said, different things motivate different people. I am setting this as a
dream, not necessarily something that I MUST get done. Of course I will work hard and
try, but it is more because of the enjoyment I get out of constructing sentences in
foreign languages.

If you learn a language correctly it does not take much time at all. Many languages
such as Spanish and Italian can be learned in a few months to an intermediate-high
intermediate level.
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Spanky
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 Message 29 of 65
01 May 2010 at 6:21pm | IP Logged 
Akao wrote:

Like Emerald said, different things motivate different people. I am setting this as a
dream, not necessarily something that I MUST get done. Of course I will work hard and
try, but it is more because of the enjoyment I get out of constructing sentences in
foreign languages.


Nothing wrong with dreaming at your age Akao, without necessarily sweating the details as to whether such a goal is actually achievable.   Have a go at it and have some fun....

Akao wrote:

If you learn a language correctly it does not take much time at all. Many languages
such as Spanish and Italian can be learned in a few months to an intermediate-high
intermediate level.


I would be delighted to hear that this is the case for you, particularly if you are speaking from experience rather than speculation.   For many here, myself most definitely included, this comment may not be supported by their own experience.   I say this not to be discouraging, but just so you do not become discouraged if your own pace in your current language of study does not meet this projection.   




Edited by Spanky on 01 May 2010 at 6:21pm

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GauchoBoaCepa
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 Message 30 of 65
01 May 2010 at 6:32pm | IP Logged 
they say that learning languages is good for tackling the effects of aging..at least inside our brains.
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Akao
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 Message 31 of 65
01 May 2010 at 9:55pm | IP Logged 
Spanky wrote:
Akao wrote:

Like Emerald said, different things motivate different people. I am setting this as a
dream, not necessarily something that I MUST get done. Of course I will work hard and
try, but it is more because of the enjoyment I get out of constructing sentences in
foreign languages.


Nothing wrong with dreaming at your age Akao, without necessarily sweating the details
as to whether such a goal is actually achievable.   Have a go at it and have some
fun....

Akao wrote:

If you learn a language correctly it does not take much time at all. Many languages
such as Spanish and Italian can be learned in a few months to an intermediate-high
intermediate level.


I would be delighted to hear that this is the case for you, particularly if you are
speaking from experience rather than speculation.   For many here, myself most
definitely included, this comment may not be supported by their own experience.   I say
this not to be discouraging, but just so you do not become discouraged if your own pace
in your current language of study does not meet this projection.   




This is assuming I use the three hours a day I mentioned. If I wanted to I could live
like a monk and use my 8 hours of free time for language study but I'd rather not.
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tracker465
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 Message 32 of 65
02 May 2010 at 4:39am | IP Logged 
Spanky wrote:
Akao wrote:

If you learn a language correctly it does not take much time at all. Many languages
such as Spanish and Italian can be learned in a few months to an intermediate-high
intermediate level.


I would be delighted to hear that this is the case for you, particularly if you are speaking from experience rather than speculation.   For many here, myself most definitely included, this comment may not be supported by their own experience.   I say this not to be discouraging, but just so you do not become discouraged if your own pace in your current language of study does not meet this projection.   




I believe this to be the case, namely because I have seen it time and time again. The problem though, is location. For example, a German friend of mine from Aachen went to study in Maastricht for her university degree, and when she first went to Maastricht, she did not speak any Dutch. She failed the entrance exam, took a course, and in a few months was speaking excellent, conversational Dutch. Now although there always seems to be a large amount of arguments about the amount of mutual intelligability between Dutch and German, the fact is that the two languages share upwards to perhaps 80 some percent of vocabulary. So through a Dutch course, total immersion, and a solid base in the core vocabulary, my friend was able to quickly learn Dutch.

Another friend of mine from the university studied Spanish since 10th grade at his high school, and then began studying French about his third year (out of four) at the university. Within a year and a half he was quite conversational, though he obviously took advantage of his previous Spanish experience and the shared vocabulary. If my friend had actually lived in France, I am sure he would have progressed even quicker.

-To the original poster: Seeing that you are only 13, you have plenty of time to learn many languages. I wish I would have started when I was your age, or even when I was in mid high school. My buddy (who studied the Spanish and French) has also studied Portguese and is now working on Korean while in the military, and he is only one year older than I, and American to boot! Really inspiring, to me anyway.

On another note, this summer I am going to attempt to learn Dutch to a high intermediate level. I was going to do this last summer, but I started having health problems and then lost focus. As soon as my time at the university is finished, I will begin my studies, and by the time it commences in the Fall, I will have my results. I believe though, that with my background in German and English, 4 months will be enough time to obtain a high intermediate level of Dutch. Since there are not many Dutch people in my area, of course my listening comprehension will not be as good, but I think that reading, writing, speaking...no problem.




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