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liddytime
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 Message 9 of 69
24 June 2010 at 12:22am | IP Logged 
".....Of the ones I have attempted to study, It's a tie between Albanian and Georgian!    I think Georgian might
come out
ahead by a nose because of its alphabet.

Albanian is difficult because it is heavily inflected, not many cognates with other IE languages and speakers
seem
so swallow-up sounds when they speak it. It is really, really hard.

Georgian is pretty much the same but not quite as inflected - but then there's that tricky alphabet. :-) ".....



Juаn wrote:
Georgian is not IE.



Whoops! You are correct.

So, there you have it...

Albanian it is....... :-)

In addition to the difficulties I noted above, I find the difficulties of Albanian as follows (adapted from
Wikipedia's Albanian Language entry)

1) 3 different dialects
2) 5 noun declensions with 6 cases
3) Confusing definite articles can be in the form of noun suffixes. These vary with gender and case.
4) With regards to pronunciation, there is a merging of the two series of voiced stops (e.g. both *d and *dh
became d).   In addition the voiced stops tend to disappear when between vowels. There is almost complete loss
of final syllables and very widespread loss of other unstressed syllables making Albanian quite difficult to
understand!
5) Verbs with a complex system of moods 6 types and tenses 3 simple and 5 complex constructions!
6) It is difficult to find Albanian speakers outside of Albania and it is difficult to find quality instructional material
(relative to, say, French, German, Italian etc...)

Edited by liddytime on 24 June 2010 at 1:39am

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Raincrowlee
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 Message 10 of 69
24 June 2010 at 3:20pm | IP Logged 
exscribere wrote:
It will depend on what your native language is and what similarities it has to any other language.


I always assume that the question means from the point of view of the language the question is written in.

So we have Albanian, Lithuanian and Icelandic as contenders, and maybe Sanskrit if it's really a living language, but only one vote for each. Any other opinions?
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Merv
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 Message 11 of 69
24 June 2010 at 3:29pm | IP Logged 
Slovenian: 6 cases, pitch accent, not entirely phonetic, and dual number.
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tractor
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 Message 12 of 69
24 June 2010 at 4:26pm | IP Logged 
Raincrowlee wrote:
So we have Albanian, Lithuanian and Icelandic as contenders, and maybe Sanskrit if it's really
a living language, but only one vote for each. Any other opinions?


Icelandic? Only four cases.
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Derian
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 Message 13 of 69
24 June 2010 at 5:09pm | IP Logged 
Merv wrote:
Slovenian: 6 cases, pitch accent, not entirely phonetic, and dual number.
Hmm...
Polish: 7 cases, 5 genders.

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trance0
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 Message 14 of 69
24 June 2010 at 7:32pm | IP Logged 
I wouldn`t call Slovene the most difficult in the IE branch. I would say Russian is probably more difficult than Slovene because of the very difficult pronunciation and because it is less phonetic. Mobile stress, a-kanje etc. make it difficult for most Slavic speakers as well, at least complete mastery of this language is quite hard to achieve.

Edited by trance0 on 24 June 2010 at 7:33pm

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Izual
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 Message 15 of 69
24 June 2010 at 8:08pm | IP Logged 
trance0 wrote:
Mobile stress, a-kanje etc. make it difficult for most Slavic speakers as well, at least complete mastery of this language is quite hard to achieve.


I wouldn't agree. Being a Polish speaker and studying Russian, I can say that except mobile stress, all other phonetic processes are quite easy to master for a Slavic speaker.
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Raincrowlee
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 Message 16 of 69
24 June 2010 at 8:28pm | IP Logged 
Derian wrote:
Merv wrote:
Slovenian: 6 cases, pitch accent, not entirely phonetic, and dual number.
Hmm...
Polish: 7 cases, 5 genders.


Yeah, I remember from other discussions that many people think Polish and perhaps Czech are the hardest Slavic languages because of the number of cases.


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