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| g.polskov Triglot Newbie Canada Joined 5040 days ago 37 posts - 50 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese | Message 9 of 13 02 August 2010 at 8:00pm | IP Logged | ||
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@ellasevia
Speaking with a Spanish grammar does worry me. I met in Mexico someone who spent a year studying in Brazil (who spoke very good Portuguese) that was telling me how easy it has been for him to pick up Spanish. But he would use weird grammar and tons of words that were not quite right (which I assumed were portuguese words). He also had this very typical singing in his sentences. Anyway, everybody knew that he spoke Portuguese. As for European Portuguese, it is not the first time I hear this. Though it is somewhat attractive, I think Brazilian is still a lot more potentially useful to me, especially being North American. As I do not have a preference yet, I better start with Brazilian, there is always time to change/learn about European. And I like the idea of speaking the main "new world" languages with their americanized versions. I like concepts haha. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kai13 Diglot Newbie Portugal Joined 5004 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English | Message 10 of 13 16 August 2010 at 10:12am | IP Logged | ||
It's a rare use that one you mention. Anyone here in Portugal would use "eles vão se lavar" instead of "eles lavar-se-ão". For a Spanish learner of portuguese I believe european portugese is easier because of the pronouciation. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 5930 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 11 of 13 16 August 2010 at 10:35am | IP Logged | ||
How odd. I myself gave up on European Portuguese and switched to Brazilian Portuguese specifically because the pronunciation was easier and closer to that of Spanish. Also, there are more materials for Brazilian Portuguese. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| g.polskov Triglot Newbie Canada Joined 5040 days ago 37 posts - 50 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese | Message 12 of 13 20 August 2010 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | ||
Wow, certainly not where I live. Probably because as we are such a small French market, we get our stuff from Europe, whence the European Portuguese thing. I always thought it was weird I could barely get material for a language spoken by close to 200 million speakers on my continent, yet find such an aboundance of material for its variant spoken by 10 million people across the ocean. I have only found dictionnaries with Portugal's flag so I rely on the small one at the end of my Assimil book (the only learning material on Brazilian I have found here) as the spelling\vocabulary is significantly different. Hey, I am annoyed at my France-Spain dictionnary while I speak both americanized versions, so I won't make the same mistake with a language that is even more different. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5050 days ago 2237 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 13 of 13 21 August 2010 at 3:37am | IP Logged | ||
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I know what you mean about European vs New World. When I lived in England, every time I opened my mouth I was a "colonial". I was in Spain for 3 months and was a colonial there too because I spoke Latin American Spanish: "la guagua" instead of "autobús" "¿mande?" instead of "¿qué?" and "jugo de china" instead of "zumo de naranja", etc.....
You might try this website intended for Spanish Speakers who want to learn Portuguese developed by the University of Arizona: http://portspan.cercll.arizona.edu/Atividades/atividades.htm There's a very useful blog with good links- "On Learning Brazilian Portuguese" Tips and web resources from an American student: http://erikspen.wordpress.com/ Hope this helps. Boa sorte! Edited by iguanamon on 21 August 2010 at 3:51am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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