Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5375 days ago 938 posts - 1839 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 17 of 24 31 August 2010 at 12:38pm | IP Logged |
I had this experience when I moved from MT German to Assimil - as that course (and Pimsleur) involve active production from day one, you feel that Assimil isn't teaching you anyhing.
A quick test to see if you are passively pickup up vocabulary and grammar from Assimil is to do the much maligned fill in the gap exercises - go back to lesson 1 and do 7 lessons worth of fill in the gaps. Do you find that you can do them without cheating? If so your vocabulary has improved passively and it is just your perception of moving from a active to a initially passive method.
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AntonioJBrown Newbie New Zealand Joined 5354 days ago 10 posts - 16 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Spanish
| Message 18 of 24 22 November 2010 at 9:48am | IP Logged |
I too found I lost the "with ease" rather quickly with the Assimil "Spanish with Ease"
course. I think I will revisit it but I need to do something else first that is
structured and systematic but not too difficult. I'm a real dunce when it comes to
languages. So now I'm looking through these forums. I tried Michel Thomas but found him
irritating. Pimsleur is not bad as a supplement for beginners but inadequate for anything
else.
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plaidchuck Diglot Groupie United States facebook.com/plaidchRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5115 days ago 71 posts - 93 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 19 of 24 24 November 2010 at 5:23pm | IP Logged |
Sorry to go a off topic, but how far does the Spanish with Ease go in the later lessons? Do they use the full extent of the grammar and vocab at a native level? Does it have anything to offer someone who is comfortable with Using Spanish? As I enjoy the Assimil method I was thinking of at least picking up the Spanish With Ease book to learn some additional vocab(or maybe a few new jokes :)
Edited by plaidchuck on 24 November 2010 at 5:25pm
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flydream777 Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6301 days ago 77 posts - 102 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: German, Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin, Greek, Hungarian, Armenian, Irish, Italian
| Message 20 of 24 24 November 2010 at 7:25pm | IP Logged |
I haven't used Using Spanish, but Spanish with Ease is pretty in-depth. The rate of speech is always going to be a little slower because it's an instruction course, but it teaches the past subjunctive, which is more than you get in four years of high school in this country--
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James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5185 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 21 of 24 25 November 2010 at 12:58am | IP Logged |
Plaidchuck - I own both Assimils but have not yet done Using Spanish. I really like with ease and would recommend it for what you are looking for. It is, of course, easier than Using Spanish, but I think it would still be worth your while. It is cheap and is quite in depth. The middle lessons (60-80) are quite detailed and lengthy (and seem roughly equivalent to the difficulty level I see in Using Spanish). The last 20-30 are shorter, but fun and use more comlex grammar.
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Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6913 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French
| Message 22 of 24 25 November 2010 at 9:35am | IP Logged |
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It's a few years since I've been through the pair of them but there is some overlap in complexity. You will probably find the first part of the book a bit simplistic but you could approach this in one of two ways. Start at the end and work backwards until it gets too easy or, alternatively, begin with an Active Wave at Lesson 1 to find a suitable starting point for a more conventional Pasive/Active combintion.
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plaidchuck Diglot Groupie United States facebook.com/plaidchRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5115 days ago 71 posts - 93 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 23 of 24 29 November 2010 at 4:00am | IP Logged |
Thanks for the prompt and helpful replies everyone about Spanish With Ease.. sounds like I'll try to have someone pick it up for me for the holidays.. to be honest even though I am at a pretty solid basic fluency I like to use the Assimil lessons to give me ideas and little tests for my writing abilities..
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James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5185 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 24 of 24 30 November 2010 at 3:01am | IP Logged |
There are multiple prices on Amazon. Purchase the $33 one with audio if you buy it there. It is great. I think it is identical to the much more expensive one.
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