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Gareth
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 Message 1 of 17
29 March 2011 at 5:19am | IP Logged 
"Learnt" or "Learned"
Which do you use?

When speaking I use "Learned" as it feels odd for me to devoice nasals.
When writing I use "Learnt" as I was taught this was standard.

Edited by Gareth on 29 March 2011 at 5:19am

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seldnar
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 Message 2 of 17
29 March 2011 at 5:30am | IP Logged 
I always used the "d" sound.

Here's an explanation of final sounds in the English past tense.
http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/esl/grammar/simplepast- pronunciation.html

Edit: ignore the space in the URL, cannot remove for some reason.

Edited by seldnar on 29 March 2011 at 5:31am

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29 March 2011 at 7:08am | IP Logged 
I was always under the impression that "learned" was American English and "learnt" British English.

Being an Australian, I use the latter almost exclusively, but I have a sneaking suspicion that a "learned" creeps into my speech every now and then. For other similar verbs, though, I only use the British spelling. For instance, I would never say "leaned" instead of "leant".

Incidentally, this forum's spellchecker marks both "learnt" and "leant" as misspelt. *shakes his stubborn British English fist*
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 Message 4 of 17
29 March 2011 at 7:59am | IP Logged 
I have always thought "learned" is past and "learnt" is the participle:
I learned.
I had learnt.

(And the spell checker did not mark learnt as misspelt... It did mark "misspelt" as
misspelt though :D)
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 Message 5 of 17
29 March 2011 at 11:31am | IP Logged 
mayfair wrote:
Being an Australian, I use the latter almost exclusively, but I have a sneaking suspicion that a "learned" creeps into my speech every now and then. For other similar verbs, though, I only use the British spelling. For instance, I would never say "leaned" instead of "leant".

"Leant"? That's a new one on me. We would say "lent" round here -- "he lent it against the wall" and such like.

Quote:
Incidentally, this forum's spellchecker marks both "learnt" and "leant" as misspelt. *shakes his stubborn British English fist*

I don't think the forum has a spell-checker. Check the language settings in your browser....
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29 March 2011 at 1:50pm | IP Logged 
I've always been taught that both forms were correct.
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 Message 7 of 17
29 March 2011 at 6:31pm | IP Logged 
I'm not sure which one I use more. They seem equally okay to me. For the record, my firefox spellchecker doesn't like "learnt" either.
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 Message 8 of 17
29 March 2011 at 7:18pm | IP Logged 
This one pops up every now and again, and the answer is inevitably that both usages are right, depending on how you view the evolution of the English language and what side of the Atlantic you're on.

Another factor is ensuring that the phrase simply "sounds right" in terms of rhythm, rhyme and balance, or perhaps fits in best within a particular peer group or community, and then sticking to this consistently in future.

As a general rule of thumb, I tend to be old-fashioned and place a "have" before "learned" (i.e. I have learned, I've learned), or otherwise revert to "learnt". However, I can see this gradually changing in Britain every day.



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