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| furrykef Senior Member United States furrykef.com/ Joined 6267 days ago 681 posts - 862 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Latin, Italian | Message 9 of 26 28 April 2011 at 7:05am | IP Logged |
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Martin's "A Reference Grammar of Japanese" marks pitch on all its sentences as well as providing some information on pitch accent patterns. You can read some of it (including the pitch accent section) on Google Books. I'd like to get a copy, but I haven't yet found a place where I can get one without paying out the ear for it.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5176 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 10 of 26 28 April 2011 at 6:05pm | IP Logged |
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I was about to add more information to my FAQ, but it appears I can't edit it!
I'll post it here for the time being: --- Please note that the actual height of L and H morae, in absolute terms, will not be constant. In other words, the first H mora of a phrase will typically be higher than subsequent H morae. As changes from L to H, then from H to L occur, the height of the H peaks will be progressively lower until a new phrase is started or a strong point of emphasis occurs. An H mora may eventually be lower than an L mora earlier in the phrase. Nonetheless, an H mora will always be higher than the L morae before or after it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5176 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 13 of 26 29 April 2011 at 3:47pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks for sharing that information with us.
I find nothing to disagree with in what that guy said, other than looking up words in a dictionary is not necessarily enough to figure out where pitch falls: in verbs and adjectives, pitch moves around depending on the ending. While accent dictionaries do explain the system, this information doesn't show up in individual entries. Consequently, a student who cares about pitch will need to understand how the system works to be able to derive the correct pitch from the dictionary form. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| w1n73rmu7e Newbie United States Joined 5735 days ago 31 posts - 46 votes | Message 14 of 26 29 April 2011 at 6:42pm | IP Logged |
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If anyone's interested in a textbook that includes places a focus on pronunciation with proper pitch accent (among other things), the Japanese: The Spoken Language series is a great option.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5176 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 16 of 26 01 November 2011 at 4:17pm | IP Logged |
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Does anyone have insight as to how to best teach or learn pitch?
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