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| Mei190 Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5135 days ago 29 posts - 40 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 17 of 26 03 November 2011 at 9:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
This also is a topic that greatly intrests me, and if anyone has anymore to add I would love some more discussion to this topic. I really have no idea the correct ways to learn pitch. The only thing I use is rote memorisation of the words and then taking note (mentally) how the person speaks with the words combined. I really feel there is no other way. Although very hard to get hold of, I thoroughly recommend to anyone interested to invest in the PC edition of NHK日本語発音アクセント辞典 not only is it a marvellous tool for native speakers, it also contains a 学習編 which has a lot of 'pronounciation training' and 'accent training' which I believe certainly helps with pitch patterns. Edited by Mei190 on 03 November 2011 at 9:39pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5176 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes  Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 18 of 26 10 November 2011 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
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As I've been attempting to make sense of pitch variations in Japanese verbs, I created a chart that learners can use to determine, at a glance, where pitch will fall. Using this chart, I was able to take any verb said to me and find the proper pitch for any other form.
Verb Table for Pitch If anyone is interesting in commenting or pointing out errors, I'd be most obliged. I had a native Japanese teacher confirm all these, but I'm hoping regional dialectal differences are not tinting the results, particularly as some forms exhibit some degree of variation. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6454 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 19 of 26 10 November 2011 at 5:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
I get some japanese and a lot of question-marks inside squares when I ry to look at your PDF. Did you forget to include the font you used or did you use very obscure Unicode Characters? I have Japanese language support installed on my Mac so it should not be the japanese that does the trouble. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5176 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 20 of 26 10 November 2011 at 6:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
Oh, interesting. I printed it to pdf the same way I always do and my home computer, office computer, even my ipod and ipad can read it... I can send you a Word version by email if you want. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5176 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 21 of 26 12 November 2011 at 3:40am | IP Logged | |||||
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Since my initial post cannot be edited, I'm forced to move the information to another
site so I can continue to update it. Thanks to Sprachprofi, you can now find Japanese Pitch information here. Edited by Arekkusu on 12 November 2011 at 3:40am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| egill Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5491 days ago 418 posts - 791 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 22 of 26 12 November 2011 at 6:55am | IP Logged | |||||
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For what it's worth, I can read the verb table just fine. Looks nice! Kinda makes me
want to start learning Japanese.. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6454 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 23 of 26 12 November 2011 at 2:00pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hmm, is there no other way to mark the tone other than using bold or capitals? The IPA-examples on Wikipedia
use ` and ´ and I recall Jorden’s book use「 and 」like in hashí は「し… Though that looked like.. ugly. *is just thinking aloud* 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5176 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 24 of 26 12 November 2011 at 2:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
Capitals and bold work really well. I can't use capitals on hiragana, but the bold accented mora is the only one that matters, the rest is obvious. It would nice to use lines and other markers, but typographically it would be hell. I hope to remain sane throughout the project. Edited by Arekkusu on 16 November 2011 at 11:20pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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