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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6503 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes  Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 25 of 30 19 December 2011 at 12:52am | IP Logged | |||||
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I do my text copying by hand because I remember the linguistic quirks better like that. And no, it is not a traumatic experience like the copying scene in Potter IV - I find it relaxing to have a fixed routine and a fixed format, but everchanging languages and themes.
On the other hand I like to write my HTLAL messages and longer texts in particular on a computer because I then can rewrite, correct and reorganize to my heart's delight without having to bother with rubber erasers or - in the worst case - having to to rewrite something from scratch because I had decided to change the order of the elements. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| s0fist Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4846 days ago 260 posts - 445 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Sign Language, German, Spanish, French | Message 26 of 30 20 December 2011 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
This reminded me about a blog post vas"> Do you still handwrite and why is that important to you (in Russian) that I read just the other day from one of my favorite Russian bloggers , it was describing some feedback obtained during some advertising campaign (by Moleskine I believe). I won't go through the entire article but a lot of people still write, like to write, or prefer to write by hand citing lots of reasons from feelings of individuality, to the physical connection, to becoming a better person and a better learner through handwriting. I wish the article provided more concrete data about ages, hobbies and occupations of those in attendance (obviously it's very skewed since these were comments from people attending a specific 'notebook'-centric event). While I hold no particular malice towards handwriting, I can't say I myself would choose to handwrite anything anymore. But it's interesting how many people still do. Edit: tried to make the links work, hopefully that did it. Edited by s0fist on 20 December 2011 at 6:45pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 4930 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 27 of 30 20 December 2011 at 6:49pm | IP Logged | |||||
There's something to be said for writing out your thoughts. But you can use technology effectively too. I use an app called "Genial Writing" on my Android tablet all the time. It's as quick and as accurate as pen & paper. And I can have as many "notebooks" as I want. It stays as my own handwriting though - no OCR to translate it to searchable text. That would make it about as perfect as I could want. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6350 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 28 of 30 20 December 2011 at 7:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
I find it interesting that people on the internet talk about handwriting as if it's something practiced by a small minority of people. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5026 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 29 of 30 21 December 2011 at 2:51am | IP Logged | |||||
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There's a very interesting device called 'electronic pen', I just purchased one called ZPen from Dane-elec for about $50. There are huge variations to the theme, price, and capabilities, but after some research this seemed the best for me.
You write on normal paper using a normal pen fill, only it is inserted on a special emitter pen, and you have a receiver clipped to one side of a letter size paper sheet, or smaller. The emitter-receiver pair store a very accurate vector record of your scribbling on an USB memory. Once you're finished writing, you have the usual paper with your stuff on it, plus an electronic copy of every page. This electronic copy can be left as is and exported to PDF for printing etc., but even the cheap-o version of the bundled software can also recognize your writing (within some limits I guess) and store it as text. I haven't tested it heavily yet, but allegedly it has support for (maybe) 20 different languages (Russian script is listed), and if your handwriting isn't all that good you must train it to be really effective, so it's apparently such a nifty piece of work that you probably don't need to purchase the 'advanced' versions of the companion programs to make it any more useful. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| s0fist Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4846 days ago 260 posts - 445 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Sign Language, German, Spanish, French | Message 30 of 30 22 December 2011 at 3:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
I wasn't talking about minorities or majorities, I was talking about a choice. A majority of people probably don't even have a choice to make about handwriting, not everyone has or can afford a laptop or s tablet or something similar that is portable, convenient, efficient, and meshes with their style. Some types of jobs don't give you a choice no matter how strongly you feel about the subject (and this can be either way either forcing handwritten forms or electronic documents). Some schools force students (or give them the opportunity, depends how you view it) to buy a laptop, and a great many choose to take notes electronically while others use laptop as a paperweight or a backboard to their favorite notebook. Majority of students still take math notes by hand (mostly for conveniency), as did I, but I sometimes wonder if I still wouldn't have preferred typed math notes if I knew for example Latex. The point I was trying to make is you have to have the choice first (both the hardware and software that match handwriting closely in convenience and efficiency). 1 person has voted this message useful |
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