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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 65 of 70 20 April 2012 at 8:44pm | IP Logged |
We're criticizing textbooks, not learners.
I'd say we're actually fairly easy to impress :P Unless you're a teacher lolol.
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| yuriFromRoma Groupie Italy Joined 4713 days ago 48 posts - 69 votes Speaks: Italian* Studies: English, Russian
| Message 66 of 70 24 April 2012 at 1:01am | IP Logged |
Speaking of pronunciation, I'd like to share a useful, free resource that I discovered few days ago: "The Russian Sound System: Pronunciation Guide", which , as the title suggests, breaks down various aspects of the proper Russian pronunciation. I'm confident that truly internalizing it will help me a lot. Or at least, that's my hope. :)
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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5056 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 67 of 70 24 April 2012 at 9:24am | IP Logged |
yuriFromRoma wrote:
Speaking of pronunciation, I'd like to share a useful, free
resource that I discovered few days ago:
"The Russian Sound
System: Pronunciation Guide", which , as the title suggests, breaks down various
aspects of the proper Russian pronunciation. I'm confident that truly internalizing it
will help me a lot. Or at least, that's my hope. :) |
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There is practically no explanation of how Russian sounds are pronounced.
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| yuriFromRoma Groupie Italy Joined 4713 days ago 48 posts - 69 votes Speaks: Italian* Studies: English, Russian
| Message 68 of 70 24 April 2012 at 10:20am | IP Logged |
In my opinion soundsystem.html">section II provides some good, simple explanation of the ones very different
from English, as well as plenty of pronunciation rules and audio examples. The latter is the thing I like
most of the guide: there are many audio examples on a specific aspect of the pronunciation that is
rather easy to isolate things poorly understood. Anyway, if someone can provide something better, he/
she is welcome.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 69 of 70 24 April 2012 at 10:31am | IP Logged |
This site is good too http://www.study-languages-online.com/russian-articulation.h tml
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| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4671 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 70 of 70 07 May 2012 at 8:34am | IP Logged |
Марк wrote:
But the spelling and the pronunciation are explained in a wrong and nonsense way. And the
transcription is stupid and misleading.
And it is not very deep. |
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Totally agree. I was shocked to see a text that makes it sound like I'm being anal to want to have correct pronunciation, among other
things.
Марк wrote:
In the modern Russian Щ is pronounced as soft Ш. The Assimil is wrong. |
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I'm glad to get confirmation. I gave up on trying to pronounce these as "different consonants". I treat them as hard and soft versions of
the same consonant, and I feel my pronunciation is pretty close to what I hear, and nobody has ever had a problem understanding this
aspect of my speech. I think the whole "sh ch combo" and related explanations are confusing and misleading. I don't understand why
they try to explain it like that.
Gabriel Anton wrote:
Seeing so many responses I became excited, only to find pages of native speakers berating students for
not having perfect pronunciation. I'd like to be suprised but this sort of attitude is something I've
encountered before - great language, but I wonder if the people are worth the effort.
Think I'll give German another look. |
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What a terrible thing to say. Native speakers come here to really analyze and discuss Russian pronunciation, and you complain about it.
There are many places you can go to get compliments of your skills. Please don't criticize one of the few honest sites left.
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