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Kartof
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 Message 25 of 33
25 August 2012 at 2:22am | IP Logged 
Danish: Hvordan at lære noget sprog

(Please feel free to correct my attempt!)

Edited by Kartof on 25 August 2012 at 2:23am

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Levi
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 Message 26 of 33
25 August 2012 at 7:24pm | IP Logged 
Esperanto: Kiel lerni iun ajn lingvon
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Butterworth
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 Message 27 of 33
25 August 2012 at 9:04pm | IP Logged 
Czech: Jak se naučit jakýkoliv jazyk
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 Message 28 of 33
26 August 2012 at 3:12am | IP Logged 
Kartof wrote:
Danish: Hvordan at lære noget sprog


The problem is that we don't use a formula like "how to" in Danish. The nearest thing would be the clumsy sentence "Hvordan man kan lære ethvert/et hvilken som helst sprog", but in practice we would us an imperative "Lær et hvilken som helst sprog" or "om at lære ethvert sprog" (literally: about to learn any language) or "Sådan lærer man et hvilket som helst sprog".

The "any" of the original sentence can't be translated into "noget" in this context (it's meaning would be "some/a bit of language"). But "noget" would be just perfct in the corresponding negative sentence: "how NOT to learn any language" ---> "Hvordan man ikke lærer NOGET (som helst) sprog".

As I have illustrated above we can use both "ethvert" or "et hvilken som helst" in the positive sentences. The difference is that "ethvert" could be understood as "each and every" language, while "et hvilken som helst sprog" only can have the meaning "any language". The translation "et vilkårligt sprog" could also be used.

For shortness' sake I would probably go for "Sådan lærer man et vilkårligt sprog".

Edited by Iversen on 02 September 2012 at 9:01pm

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 Message 29 of 33
23 October 2012 at 4:13pm | IP Logged 
Serbian - "Како научити било који језик"

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Kartof
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 Message 30 of 33
23 October 2012 at 11:46pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
Kartof wrote:
Danish: Hvordan at lære noget sprog


The problem is that we don't use a formula like "how to" in Danish. The nearest thing would be the clumsy
sentence "Hvordan man kan lære ethvert/et hvilken som helst sprog", but in practice we would us an imperative
"Lær et hvilken som helst sprog" or "om at lære ethvert sprog" (literally: about to learn any language) or "Sådan
lærer man et hvilket som helst sprog".

The "any" of the original sentence can't be translated into "noget" in this context (it's meaning would be "some/a
bit of language"). But "noget" would be just perfct in the corresponding negative sentence: "how NOT to learn any
language" ---> "Hvordan man ikke lærer NOGET (som helst) sprog".

As I have illustrated above we can use both "ethvert" or "et hvilken som helst" in the positive sentences. The
difference is that "ethvert" could be understood as "each and every" language, while "et hvilken som helst sprog"
only can have the meaning "any language". The translation "et vilkårligt sprog" could also be used.

For shortness' sake I would probably go for "Sådan lærer man et vilkårligt sprog".

Thank you for the thorough explanation! You also perfectly illustrated why I've hit a major roadblock with Danish.
So much of the meaning of Danish sentences lies in the positioning and use of prepositions and adverbs that don't
match correspondingly to English. It's so hard to get out of the English-thinking mindset, especially with a
language so closely related. Any tips as to how to approach this problem?
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montmorency
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 Message 31 of 33
24 October 2012 at 12:39pm | IP Logged 
To Iversen & Kartof:

You've just made me notice the expression "et vilkårligt sprog", which I'm guessing is related to the German "eine willkürliche Sprache".

Translatable as "an arbitrary language" (in the sense of not being a specific one).

The German adjective happened to come above my radar the other day, and while reading this "vilkårligt" suddenly hit my eye.

Interesting that the Danish noun (sprog) is neuter, while the German one (Sprache) is feminine.


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 Message 32 of 33
24 October 2012 at 10:20pm | IP Logged 
Galician
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