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| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5642 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin | Message 33 of 231 18 December 2012 at 12:44am | IP Logged | ||
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Γεια σας! I've never really quite understood what all this TAC business was about, and have mainly ignored the language logs, since being a member here. However I've been taken by the enthusiasm of the people on the Sparta team, and am tempted to sign up. I seem to have a bit more experience of Greek than most of you, don't know whether that is a good thing or a bad thing.
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| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4449 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 34 of 231 18 December 2012 at 8:48am | IP Logged | ||
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Hi stelingo. I for one would be happy to have someone with a more advanced knowledge on the team (and not only from the selfish point of view of having someone to help me out if I don't understand something:). I also had not paid much attention to the TAC before now, but after reading Brun Ugle's registration thread and Cristina's enthusiastic contributions on the Russian 2012 team, I decided it was worth giving a try.
What is your level in Greek? As you see, we are a couple of total beginners, and another few with some more months of study behind them. I think most teams have a jolly mix of beginners and advanced learners, and I assume (being new to the game) that each and everyone works in their own pace. I see the team thing more as a support to keep you motivated and to push you forward. Edited by Ogrim on 18 December 2012 at 8:49am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5576 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian | Message 35 of 231 18 December 2012 at 9:38am | IP Logged | ||
Γειά, stelingo, τι κάνεις; Don't worry about missing out on the language logs before now. You don't have to have an intimate knowledge of this place's inner workings before you start a TAC, we were all new once. The TAC is about a band of like-minded enthusiasts for one or more languages coming together to aid each other in their thirst for knowledge of their chosen language(s). The whole rhyme and reason behind the team challenge is that many of us work better when we have others around to support and encourage us. When I was at uni I always studied better with a friend beside me to tell me. We collaborate here to share resources, exchange encouraging words, practise our languages together through Skype, talk about difficulties and maybe even occasionally more experienced learners like yourself join and help the less experienced along. We find that we progress more quickly with others studying beside us. Typically the people who continue past about March time tend to forge lasting, meaningful friendships with their remaining team mates if they haven't done so already earlier on in the challenge. Just as in Spartan wartime society, many are typically lost along the way, but those who remain grow stronger through the experience. Completely unlike the military society we have borrowed our name from however, we do not leave struggling team mates to die. If anyone hasn't noticed yet, I am quite the laconophile. If joining this small team of Greek enthusiasts does appeal to you, let me know either here or via PM and I will add you to our ranks. If you choose to join, could you also let Brun Ugle, our wonderfully diligent TAC 2013 organiser, know either in the TAC 2013 Organisation Thread or via PM? That last bit is a must so that overall TAC participation can be recorded comprehensively. If you've got any more questions let me know! :) @ Saga: Thanks for the vote. Technically you didn't vote late as the deadline Brun Ugle gave was 18th December. Regarding the team, just chime in with whatever springs to mind. As time goes on you'll get used to how the team functions and will become more comfortable. And for the record, none of us know the finer details of how the team will function yet. I suggest that we all follow at least one course together as a team so that we have at least one common point of reference. As I'm going into this blind (I haven't used a course or a textbook to learn a language since the crappy ones we used in school) I suggest some version of Assimil. Now, I have no experience with Assimil and don't know anything about the different versions, how important it is to have the same version as everyone else on team or whether the audio's important. It also seems to be difficult to find some versions.I don't really know where best to get it from as the ones with audio I've found on the net are a bit pricey, especially considering I need to get it for Russian too. Request: Could someone give me a reasonably comprehensive answer to the above Assimil questions? This is probably where my inexperience as team leader will show most. Thanks :) @ aloysius - thank you for the link to Greek by Radio. I'll be adding it to the soon to be uploaded list of resources once I'm satisfied it's long enough. If anyone has any questions, suggestions or, God forbid, criticism about my running of Team Sparta or anything else, feel free to PM me. We have the Christmas performance for work coming up this weekend so I will be focusing a fair bit on preparing for that, but other than that my priorities will be firmly here and over at Team MIR. Jack Edited by LanguageSponge on 18 December 2012 at 10:07am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5576 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian | Message 36 of 231 18 December 2012 at 12:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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Modern Greek Resources Post
I'll update the first post with a link to the page this is on along with the post number. Websites: LanguageTransfer HAU Greek Podcasts GreekPod 101 Kypros Cooljugator Modern Greek verb conjugator Lexiscope Greek Filoglossia SBS Greek Podcasts Greektionary They introduce three new words every day including an example sentence with audio. Online dictionary for Greek plus some other languages PDFs for Greek all in German Textbooks Griechisch mit System Ελληνική γλώσσα (entirely in Greek) Teach Yourself Modern Greek Teach Yourself Greek Script - if you can't read Greek then try this out. There's also one for Russian. Spoken World Greek Learn Greek without a teacher Greek Easy Readers: Greek Easy Readers Edit: Wow! The links actually worked! Edited by LanguageSponge on 19 December 2012 at 3:54am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5144 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 37 of 231 18 December 2012 at 12:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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@LanguageSponge: I have stolen the following from one of Kanewaiis posts in the preplanning thread for the Assimil experiment:
++++++++++++ Assimil Passive 1. Listen to the text with the book closed. 2. Listen to the recording while looking at the English translation. 3. Read the Target Language (TL) text aloud. Be sure you understand the meaning of each sentence. 4. Now read the TL text without looking at the translation. 5. Listen to the recording twice, once while looking at the English translation, and once while looking at the TL text. 6. Listen to the recording with the book closed. At this point you should understand what is being said 7.Listen to the recording once more. Stop the machine after each sentence, and try to repeat it aloud. 8. Carefully read the comments several times. Examine the English sentences being explained. 9. Read the exercises. Repeat each sentence several times. 10. Examine the examples of sentence structure. Active 1. Read the lesson, the listen to the recordings. 2. Cover the TL text and try to reconstruct it, looking only at the English sentences. Make an effort to do this both orally and in writing. 3. Uncover the TL text and correct any errors you have made. +++++++++++++ I have to admit that it scared the living daylights out of me the first time I read it. How on earth do you do point 1-10 in just 30 minutes? But the others claimed it was perfectly feasible. I have used an adapted version when I have done Assimil, but then it has taken me three years to get to lesson 50, so perhaps I should try to do it the way I should do it :-) @Stelingo: You are most welcome!And knowing more Greek is of course an asset! Have you let Brun Ugle know that you have joined us in the sign up thread yet? Oh - and I think someone asked about which version to use in Assimil Greek. The one I have is "Le nouveau Grec sans peine" - 92 lessons by Katerina Kedra -Blayo and Jean Loup Cherel 2nd ed. 1996. I do hope there are not too many versions! Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 18 December 2012 at 12:36pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5576 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian | Message 38 of 231 18 December 2012 at 12:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you, Cristina. I'll look through that now in detail.
@ Everyone: Please see the resources post above. This is a collection of all the resources I could find through searching the forum and a short surfing session on the net. Although I have used virtually none of the resources listed above due to being a beginner in Greek, I can vouch for the TY Greek Script, it's great. If anyone else has any opinions on any of the above resources or has any additions then I'd be grateful if you could let me know here. It'd be more useful to make any suggestions public immediately so that we can discuss them if need be. As the New Year looms ever closer I imagine our need to gather resources together will become more urgent. I assume that the resources list above isn't anything particularly special so feel free to look for more as there's probably a fair bit ever more out there. LanguageSponge / Jack Edited by LanguageSponge on 18 December 2012 at 12:40pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5675 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 39 of 231 18 December 2012 at 2:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hey everyone, i'd like to tack my name on to the list of beginning Greek learners. I'm a complete beginner in Greek and have a pretty bad record with the TAC, but here i am once again, waiting to get crushed once again...
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5144 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 40 of 231 18 December 2012 at 2:48pm | IP Logged | ||
You are most welcome, Crush! I am also a complete beginner in Greek, so I am happy to get another one on board. We thought we might not be more than three people studying Greek, and now we are seven. That's great! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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