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| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7017 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 9 of 21 18 March 2013 at 11:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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Mandarin IV is coming out ending of October 2013. German IV is coming out mid December 2013. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4685 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 10 of 21 19 March 2013 at 1:26am | IP Logged | ||
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Spanish IV has been out since November 2010 Italian IV is coming March 26 French IV is coming out August 27 I like Pimsleur ... when I can find affordable copies. I'm looking forward to the reviews when more Level IV courses come out. I might give the Spanish a shot this summer. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| RedBeard Senior Member United States atariage.com Joined 5898 days ago 126 posts - 182 votes Speaks: Ancient Greek* Studies: French, German | Message 11 of 21 05 April 2013 at 7:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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Regarding which Pimsleur courses are which: Many years ago I purchased Barnes & Noble Instant Conversation Japanese for about $40 USD. It is a Pimsleur Course with 18 lessons and an instruction lesson. But it is packaged in a Barnes & Noble box with different cover art. I know that they had French in a similar package, too. As far as I can tell, these are the same first 18 lessons of the regular Pimsleur course. (It doesn't seem like a bargain to me any more, but back then I had more disposable income...) Just by coincidence, about a week ago I decided to re-listen to my Japanese starter set.
As I've said before, Pimsleur is wonderful for beginning a new language. Particularly if you have NO prior knowledge of that language... And especially if you can get it for free at your library. Its main advantage, in my opinion, is focus on pronunciation from the beginning. I don't see that it could possibly take you very far to fluency, but it will get the sounds of the language into your brain. I'm not their biggest fan, but it is a good tool for a beginner - just don't expect too much. For those interested: you can sample some lessons at Pimsleur's website, but you need to sign in with an e-mail address. www.pimsleur.com -RB P.S. Does anyone else get a bunch of Pimsleur commercials when they surf the internet? Or is it just me? :-) :wq! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4685 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 12 of 21 05 April 2013 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've found that doing both Pimsleur I & II gives you an excellent conversational base.
True, it's not a broad one, but it is a strong one. The 8-pack and 18-pack don't go far enough, and there isn't enough reinforcement for the method to work, and to me they just leave you dangling. Even Pimsleur I by itself just isn't quite enough. Pimsleur III is, as one reviewer put it, more like "Pimsleur II-B." Pimsleur Plus (the old 4) - Good riddance, and RIP. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kovajätkä Diglot Newbie Italy Joined 4059 days ago 3 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Italian | Message 13 of 21 05 April 2013 at 11:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Here are my two cents on how to get Pimsleur totally legally and ethically for a good price:
Buy a year-long (12-credit) option from them and use those credits to purchase the Pimsleur programs for your language. Audible may not have every language, but they have lots. Each level is 5 credits - each credit is generally $15, but if you buy them in bulk (12 or 24 at a time) the cost for each level would be around $60 as opposed to $200. You can even download the "readings" from the Pimsleur webpage. Edited by kovajätkä on 06 April 2013 at 8:58am 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7017 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 14 of 21 11 October 2013 at 2:55am | IP Logged | ||
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It seems German IV is being released October,29 2013 and the Chinese IV has been pushed to January, 07 2014. I saw a similar delay before with Turkish I when the release date was changed about three times in the same year. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4685 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 15 of 21 11 October 2013 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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I did the Spanish IV, and liked it a lot. There was about a five-lesson run where it
felt too simple for me, as if we were back in Pimsleur I, but overall I thought it was the best in the series. The language was more modern, and there were no long dull stretches like in the other series. They play around a lot more with sentences with multiple tenses, which is very useful. My main complaint is that we need more time with the subjunctive. I also started French IV, but am going to hold off on it until I have a trip to a French-speaking country. At this point I use Pimslur to trigger my conversational skills, not to further my understanding of a language. And using credits on audible.com makes it affordable. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| I'm With Stupid Senior Member Vietnam Joined 3969 days ago 165 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Vietnamese | Message 16 of 21 11 October 2013 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | ||
It's worth mentioning that "high-intermediate" on the ACTFL scale is actually only the top end of A2 on the CEF, which would be referred to as elementary by most textbook publishers. I really enjoy Pimsleur, but it definitely doesn't get you to anything approaching advanced level as I would recognise it. Excited for German 4 though. Edited by I'm With Stupid on 11 October 2013 at 7:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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