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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6391 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 9 of 23 18 January 2013 at 6:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yeah, I try not to avoid poor quality audio if it's just poor quality, not unpleasant per se (like FSI and some other language materials are).
For distorting a "good" recording, you can just have http://simplynoise.com/ open :) 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6497 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 10 of 23 18 January 2013 at 11:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
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What's the point? Any radio station can deliver bad sound, the problem is to find something which is crisp and clear - at least while you aren't an advanced listener.
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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6703 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 11 of 23 19 January 2013 at 12:18am | IP Logged | |||||
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I've listened to audio-books while taking a walk - not in "heavy traffic", but still with a lot of background noise. I've also sped up audio using the faster setting in Windows Media Player, not to challenge my listening comprehension but mostly to "save time" (some audio courses are annoyingly slow).
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6391 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 12 of 23 19 January 2013 at 4:23am | IP Logged | |||||
After reading about Volte's experience with it, I've also used accelerated audio, especially for LR. It kinda changes your perception of foreign audio in some way and helps with all non-fluent languages, not only the one in which you're doing it.
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I can understand the argument, but personally I prefer learning the necessary vocabulary first and try it out on wellrecorded sound first. When I listen to music I also prefer good recordings, I hate double dubbing on TV with two competing languages, and if there is background music to a film then it should never drown out the presenters' voices. Going for bad sound while you still have problems with the words is like being the esquire of a medieval knight who dons his master's attire, gets one hand tied behind his back and then rush into battle. But this is clearly a matter of personal taste. Edited by Iversen on 19 January 2013 at 3:56pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 4924 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 14 of 23 19 January 2013 at 4:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
This was a huge problem for me when I was studying Polish, and probably the main reason I never found anything I wanted to watch - TV or movies - in the language. It was just too tempting to listen for English, because it was mixed in at such a high level. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
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That's also basically what happens if musicians never learn anything by ear, learn the written music but never play it by ear, learn it by ear slooooowly (and never speed up). The might "know" the music but in reality they aren't "prepared" for anything. No element of spontaneity (or surprise). I'm not saying that a musician should learn difficult pieces by heart, or that language learners should listen to (or blind-shadow) sped-up audiobooks in heavy traffic, but one can't go wrong by doing something at a slightly higher level. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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