grunts67 Diglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5103 days ago 215 posts - 252 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish, Russian
| Message 1 of 10 03 February 2013 at 6:54pm | IP Logged |
Hello
I am currently finishing my passive wave of Assimil l'espagnol (today is lesson 91). I seem to have difficulties doing the active wave especially since lesson 30 and more. Some of those lessons are easier than others but overall, I really struggle on different aspects like vocabulary (don't remember the word) and preposition. Strangely enough, verb tense isn't that bad.
Maybe I don't approach the lessons in a good manner. Therefore, I will explain how I proceed. I always revise the last 6 lessons I did (passive and active). I only read the translation and try to formulate the correct sentences in Spanish. I do the same thing for the lesson of the day. I might repeat a lesson that I have difficulties a couple of time. As you might expect, at the end of a week, I can reproduce the lesson's sentences in a better way than the first time but I do feel a lot of the time, I just memorize it...
So, anyone had a similar problem or do you have any advices to help improve my active wave learning ?
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dbag Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4823 days ago 605 posts - 1046 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 2 of 10 03 February 2013 at 7:44pm | IP Logged |
I would just chill out and not worry. There's no need to get everything right. Concentrate on what you are learning, rather than worrying about what your not.
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4508 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 3 of 10 03 February 2013 at 10:20pm | IP Logged |
I don't get everything right either. Don't worry, not scoring 100% is normal. The trick
is believing that the 80% you are getting right means there's a cog functioning in your
brain.
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5366 days ago 938 posts - 1839 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 4 of 10 03 February 2013 at 10:41pm | IP Logged |
In Assimil terms you are now beginning to actively study the language - not test whether
you did it right in the passive wave. The more Assimil I do, the more I think of the
passive wave as a 'silent' period, where you are just getting a sense of the sound and
structure of the language. The real study begins in the active wave.
Its not a test - its where you begin your study of the language properly. Expect to go
over things again and again....
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grunts67 Diglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5103 days ago 215 posts - 252 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish, Russian
| Message 5 of 10 04 February 2013 at 9:56pm | IP Logged |
All really good points. Thank you guys.
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kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4690 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish
| Message 6 of 10 04 February 2013 at 10:04pm | IP Logged |
I had the same problems with Assimil Spanish. I'm currently on Lesson 70 of the Active
wave, and there's no way I could've done it using the 'official' method. There is too
much new vocabulary that they only use once, and too many idiomatic expressions that
don't translate well.
I review the dialogues, but focus more on the exercises, repeating them until I get them
right. Sometimes I do it aloud, sometimes written. This is much more manageable!
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5182 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 7 of 10 04 February 2013 at 10:29pm | IP Logged |
kanewai wrote:
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Exactly. It's not reasonable to expect that you'd remember "matches" weeks later after it came up in one lesson!
I now read the active wave lesson once over first, then I translate it, and I go over any small detail I may have forgotten. It's still active, it's still reinforcing, I'm still learning...
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Nuuskamuikkunen Triglot Newbie Finland Joined 4117 days ago 21 posts - 43 votes Speaks: Finnish*, Polish, English
| Message 8 of 10 05 February 2013 at 10:00am | IP Logged |
There are two Assimils: the material and the method.
I personally adore Assimil the material: near 100 short, often very funny dialogues, presented progressively, plus the transcription and notes.
I love the Assimil method much less. I prefer a more traditional (?) approach being active from the start. For example I'd study one lesson (or more) today, ending it by translating from source to target language; tomorrow I'd once again try to translate from source to target, then review the whole lesson, and on with the next one(s).
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