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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4495 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 9 of 49 29 March 2013 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes, I can practically make all the sounds I can distinguish. I do not always make them
properly in context, though, which is two, but most individual phonemes are not problematic. That is question two: how can you identify how phonemes are used in the prosodic context of a language. How can you teach awareness of prosody? Edited by tarvos on 29 March 2013 at 3:59pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| LaughingChimp Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4487 days ago 346 posts - 594 votes Speaks: Czech* | Message 10 of 49 29 March 2013 at 4:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
They probably learn the accent from each other. It seems that illiterate people listen to new words in a different way than literate people do (http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/121/6/1053.short), so I thought it could be interesting to investigate if it makes a difference. 5 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| PillowRock Groupie United States Joined 4522 days ago 87 posts - 151 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 11 of 49 29 March 2013 at 11:49pm | IP Logged | |||||
Easy. You do your initial identification of potential subjects from something like citizenship application records (I would say immigration records because that's a wider field; but since you included a "trying to assimilate" qualifier, I think that people applying for citizenship is probably a better filter for that). Or, if you can't get access to those records, just go to citizen swearing in ceremonies and try to recruit all of the new citizens. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5169 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 12 of 49 31 March 2013 at 6:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
We all know that's not possible.
Ok... You first. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5348 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 13 of 49 02 April 2013 at 2:35pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Not an experiment, but I'd quite like to see some research on the correlation between good accents and musical or other abilities and/or aptitudes:
recognise notes produce/sing notes distinguish between different instruments recognise well known tunes or compositions understand the lyrics in pop songs dancing ability march in step/time I think it would be quite easy, as I don't think you would actually need to measure the abilities, it could all be done as self assessment. The main reason for my interest is, I expect the results would give me a good justification for never bothering trying to learn a good accent ever again. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| maucca Diglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4439 days ago 33 posts - 64 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English Studies: French | Message 14 of 49 02 April 2013 at 10:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't recognize notes at all (unless they're printed on paper), my singing horrifies even myself, and I have no dancing ability either. But I think I may safely say, without bragging, that both my English and French accents are relatively good, especially considering how few opportunities I've had to speak them. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! ;)
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5169 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 15 of 49 02 April 2013 at 10:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
It would be nice to have some research yielding insight about the kinds of things that help people improve, not criteria that exclude them. Anyone wishing to improve should be able to rely on a set of proven techniques and methods that, in conjunction or in isolation, are helpful rather than discouraging. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6491 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 16 of 49 03 April 2013 at 11:00am | IP Logged | |||||
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Research project:
Can a trained phonetician (or whatever the relevant profession name is) make lasting changes in the pronunciation of a language learner after one hour of one-to-one instruction? Reference groups: people who do pronunciation exercises in a standard classroom setting people who watch TV in their target language for 5 hours or more daily People who are quite satisfied with their current level and who don't do anything to change it Edited by Iversen on 03 April 2013 at 11:04am 5 persons have voted this message useful |
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