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| snoonan Triglot Newbie United States learningindones Joined 6047 days ago 23 posts - 56 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Indonesian | Message 1 of 10 05 April 2013 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
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5 years ago, I asked for help here in getting my language podcast off the ground. I got some amazing assistance
and it helped me to produce a very well respected series for an underserved language. But it's 2013 now and it's time for some innovation in general. Well, we have been talking and we feel like we've hit a wall with our feedback from users, online reviews, etc. We'd REALLY like to know what a perfect self-study language program should look like in 2013. We've found we need to entertain and hold an audience, so we can't move too fast in the beginning, but we also don't want to get stuck in elementary Pimsleur (or even Michel Thomas) mode either. We have the resources now to get more native speakers recording anything we wish, build solid web-based online tools, mobile apps and basically do everything you see out of a company like Rosetta Stone (BUT of course we know the pedagogy there is suspect at best.) We like Duolingo for its freshness and interface, but it's got similar issues and is kind of quietly geared towards turning you into a document translator, not a speaker. Other than that, we're wide open to suggestions. Our question... What would be your absolutely perfect free study system? We can do mobile apps, any audio format possible, video, web-based study tools, etc. It feels like we should be able to make something amazing, but all we have to compare it to seems to be based on wacky marketing promises, classroom-based or academic computer based training research (not about motivating self-study learners with lots of life distractions). If you could invent the perfect tools and materials to serve your learning today, what would they look like? Thanks! 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4503 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 2 of 10 05 April 2013 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Language Ninja.
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| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5395 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 3 of 10 05 April 2013 at 11:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
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What underserved language are you talking about?
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| snoonan Triglot Newbie United States learningindones Joined 6047 days ago 23 posts - 56 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Indonesian | Message 4 of 10 05 April 2013 at 11:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
Indonesian, but the whole state of underserved languages is pretty bad in general. I'm looking for what I can use to help these learners. And yes, it's always about humans for humans. I didn't mean to imply technology solves everything, but that we have access to build anything out there. If it's part of the answer, then all the better. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| leroc Senior Member United States Joined 4107 days ago 114 posts - 167 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 5 of 10 05 April 2013 at 11:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
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You should have an in browser webcam chat in the website that lets you have sort of chat roulette with other learners, and have tutors for the customers that pay. Maybe try to hook up native speakers of Bahasa Indonesia that would like to learn English with Indonesian learners?
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| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5395 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 6 of 10 06 April 2013 at 12:08am | IP Logged | |||||
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The problem with Indonesian is, that there is not anything to read, which is both easy and enjoyable. The language has no great literary tradition, because it was only recently (in the last century) established as a standardized national language.
It made big waves, when a foreigner, an Australian bloke, wrote some children stories with Indonesian colouring (Petualangan Anak Indonesia), but otherwise I have seen only some British classics in translation, so nothing worthwhile on its own account. That is a pity! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| HMS Senior Member England Joined 4903 days ago 143 posts - 256 votes Speaks: English* | Message 7 of 10 06 April 2013 at 12:57am | IP Logged | |||||
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It would be a massive undertaking, and I have no idea how it could be seen through but - I think personalised language programmes would be the way ahead.
I'm never going to need to enquire as to the price of postcards in a shop wherever...If I could learn the nuts & bolts of a language in terms that interested me or that I use on a daily basis then it would maybe give me a better foundation. Maybe tick checkboxes according to lifestyle, work, hobbies etc and the result is a language course geared towards that. Either that or it's...learn German through the medium of porn ;) 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| snoonan Triglot Newbie United States learningindones Joined 6047 days ago 23 posts - 56 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Indonesian | Message 8 of 10 06 April 2013 at 2:20am | IP Logged | |||||
My wife and I talked this idea over while waiting for our dinner. It's very practical and makes a lot of sense to facilitate connecting people to tutors and to each other for practice. There are options for language exchange out there, so I don't think we can add much value there, but I do know we can help vet and facilitate good tutors. Interesting.
Another winning idea. The personalization one is pretty good too. :) This is actually something I've been researching this from a technology perspective. It's not hard to do with flash cards, but coming up with an internally consistent program can be tough. It's really solid idea and probably going to be where things are headed. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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