maxb Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6972 days ago 536 posts - 589 votes 7 sounds Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Mandarin
| Message 1 of 18 17 August 2006 at 5:01am | IP Logged |
I would just like to share a method for developing native like pronounciation that has been developed by a Swede called Olle Kjellin. The method is described here.
The essence of the method is to practice saying a sentence in chorus many many times. The teacher (or CD) first says the sentence 10-20 times by himself. Then the chorus comes in and everyone repeats together. Part of the reasoning behind chorus repition seems to be that rhythm is a very important part of intonation. Kjellin states that, according to his experience, if the rhythm is correct the intonation melody will automatically become correct. Some more information on the method can also be found
here
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6492 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 18 17 August 2006 at 5:31am | IP Logged |
The method may work, but I would go berserk within five minutes or less...
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Andy_Liu Triglot Senior Member Hong Kong leibby.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6575 days ago 255 posts - 257 votes Speaks: Mandarin, Cantonese*, EnglishC2 Studies: French
| Message 3 of 18 17 August 2006 at 6:16am | IP Logged |
Theoreticially, this sounds good because you have a chance to repeat saying the same sentence. But I think 5 times is good, 20 times is annoying. ;)
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6698 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 4 of 18 17 August 2006 at 6:34am | IP Logged |
A thought - is there a "perfect" number of repetitions, or could you go on forever, getting even better? After say 200 repetitions - would any more be counterproductive?
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Andy_Liu Triglot Senior Member Hong Kong leibby.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6575 days ago 255 posts - 257 votes Speaks: Mandarin, Cantonese*, EnglishC2 Studies: French
| Message 5 of 18 17 August 2006 at 6:51am | IP Logged |
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
A thought - is there a "perfect" number of repetitions, or could you go on forever, getting even better? After say 200 repetitions - would any more be counterproductive? |
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That's the fact. Learning a language, besides the material you've got, your attitude of course matters. Just choose the program that best suits your habits. :)
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maxb Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6972 days ago 536 posts - 589 votes 7 sounds Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Mandarin
| Message 6 of 18 17 August 2006 at 6:57am | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
The method may work, but I would go berserk within five minutes or less... |
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Actually it isn't that bad. When you listen to the sentence
a couple of times you start to get a feel for the rhythm in it, then it becomes a challenge to match the rhythm of it as closely as possible. Besides when you notice the immediate results you get from these method you start liking it. And the sad fact is that any skill requires alot of repetitions. Athletes and musicians practice the same things over and over and over again in order to reach proficiency. I think you need to do the same with language.
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Polyglot2005 Senior Member United States Joined 6977 days ago 184 posts - 185 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 7 of 18 17 August 2006 at 8:07am | IP Logged |
Great post. This is a topic i am very interested in. I having native like accent and pronunciation is a big goal for me (regardless of the target language).
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Polyglot2005 Senior Member United States Joined 6977 days ago 184 posts - 185 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 8 of 18 17 August 2006 at 8:15am | IP Logged |
The parts on the overview section reminds me of something I read about the tomatis method. If anyone is interested here is the link:Tomatis for Foreign Language Acquisition
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