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| kublu Newbie United States Joined 4031 days ago 2 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, German | Message 57 of 63 01 January 2014 at 7:38am | IP Logged | |||||
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Wow. I find it depressing that so many accredit "For Whom the Bell Tolls" to Metallica
rather than Hemingway and the book they based the damn song on. If I find someone who accredits "Brave New World" to Iron Maiden I'm gonna throw a fit. I actually do use "whom", but only when speaking formally. When talking with friends, my grammar noticeably decomposes, and I will always use "who" for everything except set phrases. I believe this is because I pay no mind to what I'm saying, and probably also due to my near constant study of Japanese which has started to leak into my English. Whenever I'm talking to anyone else though, I'll almost always use "whom" and actually feel guilty whenever I forget to use it. I'm from Washington State. Speaking of ignored grammar rules, does anyone want to comment on split infinitives? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 58 of 63 01 January 2014 at 8:21am | IP Logged | |||||
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| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5229 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 59 of 63 02 January 2014 at 5:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Ha, well, if we're going to get into split infinitives, I think the Wikipedia article is quite interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_infinitive Personally, to me they feel as natural as breathing. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4623 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 60 of 63 05 January 2014 at 6:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
Ach, Aldous Huxley probably stole the phrase from someone else. We're all thieves in this business. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Spanky Senior Member Canada Joined 5957 days ago 1021 posts - 1714 votes Studies: French | Message 61 of 63 07 January 2014 at 2:54am | IP Logged | |||||
He did indeed: “O, brave new world that has such people in't!” The Tempest, Wm Shakespeare, who himself lifted a bunch of his stuff from others.... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Spanky Senior Member Canada Joined 5957 days ago 1021 posts - 1714 votes Studies: French | Message 62 of 63 07 January 2014 at 3:04am | IP Logged | |||||
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A comprehensive academic discussion on the related issue "whomever", from the Amurican version of The Office.
whomever I go through a lot of Tylenol hearing/seeing "whom" and "whomever" used incorrectly. I used to take it as a personal affront for some reason; now, I just take the Tylenol... 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| DaisyMaisy Senior Member United States Joined 5381 days ago 115 posts - 178 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish Studies: Swedish, Finnish | Message 63 of 63 08 January 2014 at 3:58am | IP Logged | |||||
Don't forget about John Donne! Hemingway didn't invent it either :) That dialogue from The Office about "whom" cracks me up. I love the hypothesis that it's a made up word to trick people! 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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