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gregf Triglot Newbie Luxembourg Joined 3750 days ago 12 posts - 43 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Italian, Ancient Greek
| Message 1 of 12 17 March 2014 at 5:09pm | IP Logged |
In an attempt not to hijack the Criticised Assimil programs thread, I thought I'd start a new one for programs you really love.
I just finished the Assimil Grec Ancien course, and I'd like to ask for more positive experiences and reviews of other programs. I imagine going through a whole book creates a certain affection for it, it's hard to imagine spending that much time with something you don't like. :)
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Having just finished this book, I thought I'd throw in my two cents. The reviewer above obviously hasn't gotten very far in the book, because the entire storyline changes into a symposium about half-way through, with readings adapted from Xenophon's Symposium and Plato's Symposium. The last few dialogs even provide a re-telling of the Oddessy, followed by Socratic reflections on "true wealth" being in the soul, and the last bonus lesson contains the first 10 lines of the Oddessy in unadapted Epic Greek.
I must say I've become completely enamored with this book, and I've been through quite a few Assimils: Spanish, Italian, Italian Perfectionnement, and now Grec Modern. The Grec ancien course is by far the best, with etymological and historical notes, musical interludes, poetry readings, etc. Now going back to the more "modern" language editions seems boring, (especially the modern Greek version, which does indeed seem stilted, from the first few chapters) simply because they don't contain as much cultural information.
As for the sound, it also took me a little while to get used to the pitch accents. But compared to other readings you can find online in Ancient Greek, they were very well done, and really do add to the learning experience. Spend a day or two getting used to the pronounciation, and you'll see what I mean. People spend too much time arguing about Ancient Greek pronunciation anyway: after an hour, your brain will get used to different pronunciation schemes, as long as they're consistent.
Finally, Ancient Greek is indeed a difficult language, and you shouldn't expect to learn the verbal system through the Assimil notes. That said, working through the whole book after you've got a fairly solid basis in the grammar (after the first 10 chapters of Hansen & Quinn, for example) makes for a much richer learning experience. As with many of their courses, Assimil's Grec ancien isn't really for absolute beginners.
Bottom line: for my money, the Ancient Greek course is really really special. |
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| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4513 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese
| Message 2 of 12 17 March 2014 at 5:46pm | IP Logged |
Assimil: O Novo Francês Sem Esforço - is an amazing Assimil book. Despite some boring lessons (like 3 lessons in a row about French games like petanque, or the one about the loto), most lessons are very funny and well-written.
Assimil: Dutch With Ease - is also very very good. I haven't finished it yet, but overall it's a very good course.
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4505 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 3 of 12 17 March 2014 at 5:51pm | IP Logged |
The Romanian course is hilarious and comprehensive, it just sadly lacks a good grammar
index.
I also liked the Russian and Hebrew courses (English and French base).
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| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7019 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 4 of 12 17 March 2014 at 6:07pm | IP Logged |
I think it would be a good idea to list the name, generation, base language and the complimentary information why a person likes it to be listed. An example is the Brazilian Portuguese French base previous edition seems to be lauded, while the new one is a hit or miss depending on the person, but still not considered as good. This way members know what product they are looking for and reading about.
This complimentary thread I guess is the yin to the critical thread's yang.
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| sillygoose1 Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 4434 days ago 566 posts - 814 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: German, Latin
| Message 5 of 12 17 March 2014 at 7:34pm | IP Logged |
New French With Ease + Using French are incredibly well rounded and made. My favorites.
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| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6244 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch
| Message 6 of 12 17 March 2014 at 8:45pm | IP Logged |
New French with Ease was my first Assimil course, and I love it dearly. It's excellent. I'm currently working through Russian now (the newest version), and it, too, is very good. I've not completed it, but
the first 1/4 of the Dutch course is similarly good.
Edited by josht on 17 March 2014 at 8:45pm
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| rlnv Senior Member United States Joined 3749 days ago 126 posts - 233 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 7 of 12 17 March 2014 at 9:27pm | IP Logged |
Another vote for New French with Ease. I'm still working through it but the further I get the more I realize how ingenious it it. At this point in my study I find it indispensable. Yes, it is that good.
I'm sure the other thread has some valid criticisms, but I hope it does not turn perspective students away from NFWE or other Assimil courses that are equally as brilliant.
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| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7019 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 8 of 12 17 March 2014 at 9:35pm | IP Logged |
@gregf,
This is in regards to the purpose of this thread. Are you interested on the reasons why
members like specific Assimil programs, or just members stating they like a program?
Some of the posters, wrote a program is very good, excellent, or I like it, but no given
reasons. I thought members would post, something similar to what you wrote concerning
Ancient Greek a person would get a solid basis of the grammar.
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