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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6391 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 1 of 9 20 March 2014 at 9:52pm | IP Logged |
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Definitely applies to language learning as well.
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| sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5185 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish
| Message 2 of 9 21 March 2014 at 1:52am | IP Logged |
I started feeling a few symptoms of burnout last week which was a signal to me to take a break and look to
change things up. I had spent the entire week studying pretty hard and not allowing myself any unnecessary
exposure to English. I allowed myself to indulge in some English reading and an evening of Law and Order
(guilty pleasure). Despite that I still got at least 3 hours of study/exposure in each day over the weekend.
I think the other thing that contributed to my oncoming burnout was that I reached the final units of my Irish
book. Thus far I've been studying on the bus during my commute and letting the audio run while I walk from
the bus terminal to work, which allowed me to preview the upcoming units. Since I no longer had these low
pressure previews I was only doing review - which was starting to get both frustrating and boring. That was
my signal to change things up to nip those negative emotions in the bud before I burnt out completely. I'm
changing my approach to reviewing the chapters and will use another resource for listening to keep things
fresh.
As enthusiasts our burnout limits should be higher than if we were studying in school but it's still there and still
needs to be managed.
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| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4465 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 3 of 9 21 March 2014 at 6:41am | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
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I'm not so sure. Could you give examples? I tried but failed.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6391 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 4 of 9 21 March 2014 at 3:32pm | IP Logged |
Well, do you think any of the three types mentioned doesn't exist in language learning? I've witnessed examples of all three here, I think. And with hobbies/things we enjoy it's not always easy to see the problem/avoid blaming outside circumstances when it's actually the study plan that needs a change.
To those currently struggling with burn-out, I highly recommend reading Kuji's log.
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4960 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 5 of 9 21 March 2014 at 4:22pm | IP Logged |
I have "Frenetic" burnout with languages and "Under-challenged" at work. Do they cancel
each other? :P
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| Avid Learner Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4456 days ago 100 posts - 156 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: German
| Message 6 of 9 25 March 2014 at 1:52am | IP Logged |
Expugnator wrote:
I have "Frenetic" burnout with languages and "Under-challenged" at work. Do they cancel
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I know you are joking at least to some extent, but from my personal experience, it's actually possible. A boring job didn't seem as boring once I also started devoting time to studies in a related field. It seemed to become more boring again in between semesters.
Even if it's not related to work in any way, having something you really enjoy during your day will make the rest of it seem less negative. However, I'm probably stating the obvious...
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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4622 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 7 of 9 25 March 2014 at 11:10am | IP Logged |
Moving away from the specifics of that article, and thinking more generally, but within
a languages context, I'm sure it's very easy to overload oneself, and for those of us
who are learning languages purely voluntarily, then theoretically, it is we who should
be in control and should be able to prevent the burnout in the first place.
But easier said than done, perhaps.
I've always resisted the challenges here, with their emphasis (mostly) on quantity. The
only exception was the Consistency Challenge, and even that became a bit of a burden
after a while (even though I do genuinely value consistency).
Nevertheless I still find myself sometimes piling on quantitative pressures sometimes,
even though I know it's not really in my own best interests.
Some thoughts around this are,
To emphasise quality over quantity,
To try to find a balance between getting the work done, and taking sufficient breaks
from it to let it be absorbed subconsciously,
and perhaps most important of all, to make and take as many opportunities as possible
to use and have fun with the language(s). If we're not enjoying them, then we're doing
something wrong.
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4960 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 8 of 9 25 March 2014 at 7:26pm | IP Logged |
I was joking to some extent, but mostly stating the truth. You're right about your
remark, Avid Learner.
My most stressful days at language learning are those when I'm dealing with resources
that impose some technical constraints and/or are too long. At those times I am fully
aware that I could be doing something easier or taking a smaller dosis of that given
material, but I'm not always happy about spending a longer time at resources I need, but
don't like that much. So, what happens is that I tend to go faster and thus work on more
each day with resources I don't like much. In the case of Duolingo German, for example,
it was a lot of work, sometimes it took me over 45 minutes. Yet I found it important, so,
when I had a break and didn't have to work on much else I'd then try to do as much as
possible on it.
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