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How would you study languages in prison?

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Fuenf_Katzen
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 Message 17 of 25
23 March 2014 at 8:55pm | IP Logged 
Other than the obvious Spanish, I have to say German might not be a bad one because of the pronunciation. If he's generally going to use solely written materials, the pronunciation will be much more intuitive than some of the other language possibilities.    

I actually remember seeing an episode of the show Locked Up Abroad where a girl was in a Bengali prison for several years and came out speaking the language fluently. I can't say I ever hope to be in that situation, but it would be the perfect opportunity to occupy time and learn something new.
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 Message 18 of 25
23 March 2014 at 10:37pm | IP Logged 
Can he ask other inmates around him to see if any of them happen to know any other language? He might get a surprise. That would help with pronunciation.
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23 March 2014 at 11:30pm | IP Logged 
If he should think of something like Latin or Biblical Hebrew and Greek, could he enlist the help of a prison chaplain? That is someone who could verify that his material is what it is, and not some nefarious code.

Are there any educational opportunities at this facility that could help him?
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 Message 20 of 25
28 March 2014 at 7:40am | IP Logged 
If the inmate can have phone calls maybe a friend could buy matching books for he and the inmate. When they
called each other the they could practice some sample sentences over & over until he starts to get it. I'm sure that
his interest in Spanish could spark a friendship in jail. I worked as a jailer many years ago & the Spanish speakers
were always happy to help me out.

Maybe if the warden was contacted maybe the prison library could receive audio course donations. Any
educational achievements that took place under his watch could only make him look better.
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 Message 21 of 25
30 March 2014 at 11:18am | IP Logged 
In my opinion it hardly matters what language he learns, because without access to audio or speakers of the language, his accent is going to be bad anyway. He should choose what interests him. Probably not a language like Chinese, where a bad accent is an absolute barrier to comprehensibility.

If he can find someone in the prison to talk to in the foreign language, that changes the situation.
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30 March 2014 at 11:32pm | IP Logged 
As far as I know, all UK prisons have libraries and extensive education programmes. I assume this is also the
case in other wealthy countries.

I'm sure the vast majority of prisoners would respect one of their fellow inmates for working hard on a foreign
language. That's the way it works in normal society, it can't be that different in jail.
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 Message 23 of 25
03 April 2014 at 3:51pm | IP Logged 
As a person who spent 4 years in a Maximum Security prison as a Guard to pay my way through the university, I can tell you he will have many opportunities to hear Spanish. Even if he is in Administrative Segregation where the inmates are locked up 23 hrs a day, they still can talk to the people next to them and others "down the run" (meaning a few cells away).

On top of that, as long as he is not an A-Hole in his conduct with the staff, he would be able to interact with the staff that speaks Spanish. I know Anglo inmates that walked into prison without being able to speak a word of Spanish, walk out being able to converse in Spanish to the point that most outsiders would consider them Fluent (Whatever that means). Most of them could not read Spanish but neither could many of the Native Speakers they learned from.

If it is a State Prison then time will fly by and will be out long before the ten years. If it is Federal time then he will do 11 out of every 12 months sentenced. Many people have changed there lives buy going thru it. I wish him the best.

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 Message 24 of 25
06 April 2014 at 9:54pm | IP Logged 
BrianDeAlabama wrote:

Maybe if the warden was contacted maybe the prison library could receive audio course donations. Any
educational achievements that took place under his watch could only make him look better.


That reminds me of the great film "The Shawshank Redemption", such a beautiful film!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111161/?ref_=nv_sr_1

I actually think the problem of not having access to audio material/people around you speaking the language isn't that fatal! I remember the first language I studied beside school was Indonesian and I didn't use any audio material at all. (I was only 16 and I actually just want to get this Indonesian "code" into my head; an algorithm that permits you to make your brain think in a different way from the habitual way you were thinking in all your life.) After some time I was able to write long long emails to Indonesia and understand the answers coming back, but I wouldn't understand anything of spoken Indonesian. The thing is, it never bothered me, as I was happy to read and write it. (Nowadays I still prefer the, let's say, soundless features of a language and oral abilities come second.)
He could learn any language he might feel interested in and I find it curious to only read of Spanish, Italian, German, Latin and Greek in this thread. There are so many beautiful languages on earth that go along with beautiful, interesting cultures and one shouldn't restrict oneself to the ~ 10 most spoken or most popular or most learned languages... I suggest you get him a book about the world's different cultures and then he might come up with an idea of what interests him. Maybe it will even encourage him and prod him to go and see this place the day he gets out of prison - let it be Egypt, South Africa, Brazil, Iceland, Madagascar or India or whatever he can't stop longing for! I wish him good luck and I hope he will keep a sound mind by learning new languages - one may be blocked up somewhere, but nobody can ever restrain you from travelling around in your mind and broaden your horizon!


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