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| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4724 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 1 of 20 30 April 2014 at 12:39pm | IP Logged |
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During the Learning Based Challenge in April, I learnt 25 new cards almost every day
for a month. During the process, my daily review list was getting bigger every day. Most days I did enough extra reviews to complete them, although this often meant doing 250-300 reviews of past cards. This made me wonder, what is a sustainable number of new cards to add every day. By sustainable, I mean that the number of reviews due wouldn't keep going up. Before this challenge I had new cards set to 10/day, but sometimes I would turn off new cards for a few days because the review queue was creeping up. I am thinking that a sustainable number would be something like 6/day. Share your thoughts and experience with new cards. Have you found a sustainable daily number? Or do you study new vocabulary in peaks and troughs? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Ezy Ryder Diglot Senior Member Poland youtube.com/user/Kat Joined 4164 days ago 284 posts - 387 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 2 of 20 30 April 2014 at 2:40pm | IP Logged |
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I've been keeping a log of my vocabulary (Anki deck?) size for the last 39 days. I have been
adding an average of 35.52 words a day. I get about 300-500 reviews a day, and I do them in about half an hour (the time will be different on the PC and Ankidroid). For me, it's not really the reviews that are hard to do, but rather making the new cards. Adding 50 words takes me an hour to an hour and a half, and it's kinda tedious (particularly if I add from a real life book, and I have to look up new Kanji by the radicals first). In short, I find it hard to sustain adding so many new cards itself, rather than keeping up with the reviews this number leads to. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| BaronBill Triglot Senior Member United States HowToLanguages.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4504 days ago 335 posts - 594 votes Speaks: English*, French, German Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Persian | Message 3 of 20 30 April 2014 at 10:28pm | IP Logged |
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Truthfully, I have found 10 new cards a day to be sustainable over a long period of time. I did 10 new cards a day with my basic German deck for over a year and eventually, it did all work itself out as the older cards got longer and longer intervals. There were times I wasn't sure I could keep up, but it did end up being managable long term (under 30 minutes/day).
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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6724 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 20 30 April 2014 at 11:54pm | IP Logged |
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There must be some way to calculate the optimal amount of new cards, assuming you mark each as Good the first time you see it, and Easy each time you see it again.
The better you know the cards beforehand, the longer the interval will be. And obviously, if you've never before seen any of the words you add, those will appear again and again. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4336 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 5 of 20 01 May 2014 at 12:50am | IP Logged |
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the rule of 5: 5 new cards per day = 5 minutes of review per day :)
this is what I call manageable, considering I have 3 decks where I add new cards each day and another 5 where I add new cards very rarely for very easy languages, I can manage 10 new cards per day and still stay around the 5 minute window 7 persons have voted this message useful | |
| vogue Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4069 days ago 109 posts - 181 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish Studies: Ukrainian | Message 6 of 20 02 May 2014 at 3:29pm | IP Logged |
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I think there are lots of factors here.
When I started learning (already speaking Spanish), I 'learned' 50-100 new cards a day (though, in actuality, many of the words were very similar to Spanish words so it wasn't so difficult. I would spend almost all of my commute on cards, plus all the media I consumed was in Italian. This rate is not sustainable, After 2-3 months I was happy at 10 cards. With Persian I was happy with 5 new cards a day. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| sfuqua Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4580 days ago 581 posts - 977 votes Speaks: English*, Hawaiian, Tagalog Studies: Spanish | Message 7 of 20 08 May 2014 at 5:55am | IP Logged |
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I'm adding sentences these days, some of which have as many as two new words. I started out at 50 sentences a day eventually dropped back to 30 sentences a day, and now am at 20 words a day. I've been at this since early January. I've got 3200 learning and mature cards. My reviews today was at 130 cards. I don't hit easy very often; I usually stick to good. I have deleted sentences that I didn't like, so this probably is affecting things also.I really think that there are so many variables in this that you can only determine what to do based on your results.
If there is anything I have learned it is that the number of new cards you can stand is probably much less than you think you can handle when you start off. A few cards never seem to stick, and as you go along they pile up... edited to fix a dumb sentence Edited by sfuqua on 08 May 2014 at 6:17am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Gunshy Diglot Newbie United Kingdom Joined 3932 days ago 28 posts - 37 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French | Message 8 of 20 12 May 2014 at 12:51pm | IP Logged |
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What would be the most efficient way of remembering the vocabulary when following an
Assimil course? If words repeat themselves over the course of the lessons, would using Anki just be a waste of time? I'm wondering if it's best to buy a wee notebook and log new words into chapters, and review the odd lesson's vocabulary every so often. Or have others had much luck with learning everything "naturally" (i.e. no note-takng)? That way I could keep Anki for words I find in the wild (e.g. when reading a book) that don't stick. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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