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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3842 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes  Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 1 of 11 14 September 2014 at 9:31pm | IP Logged |
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Hi guys,
I'm studying Dutch using Duolingo since the end of July and while it has helped me a lot to have a better comprehension of the structures and allowed me to pick some vocabulary (the counter is 1118 words but can be a little misleading, I understand more than this and am able to use less than this), i have now arrived in a point that is significantly slowing my progresses. I have two main problems: - it insists with vocabulary that is not very needed in this phase of my studies - the more I'm progressing the more the translations become opaque and I continuously lose hearts not for my dutch constructions, but for my English constructions! What do you suggest me guys? I'm at level 11 and I have almost finished the 4th checkpoint (there is another one and then is finished). Is it worthy to continue to face the pain or should I better start assimil and study grammar with another method? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| YnEoS Senior Member United States Joined 4049 days ago 472 posts - 893 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Cantonese, Japanese, French, Hungarian, Czech, Swedish, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish | Message 2 of 11 14 September 2014 at 9:47pm | IP Logged |
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Duolingo's teaching method is horrible for learning new content IMO. I think there's some research that shows that the "learn vocabulary by categories" method is actually much slower than simply learning completely randomized vocabulary lists (someone let me know if I'm wrong about this). For me the usefulness of Duolingo is for revising stuff you've already learned if you want to really solidify your spelling, noun genders, verb conjugations, etc.
But arguably you can get similar practice and have more fun with something like Lyrics Training. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3842 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 3 of 11 15 September 2014 at 12:54pm | IP Logged |
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Ouch.
I sometimes had this impression. I'm still grateful to Duolingo for what it allowed me to reach nevertheless. Time to move... 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4804 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 4 of 11 15 September 2014 at 1:43pm | IP Logged |
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I think Duolingo can be a very good tool but surely not a standalone resource. Do you use it as such main course or do you have a normal coursebook with cds/assimil/graded podcasts/online course whatever else aside of it?
The translation exercises in general can be very valuable but you've already noticed the catch. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3842 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 5 of 11 15 September 2014 at 2:26pm | IP Logged |
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Hi Cavesa,
let's say, my main tool are native resources. I do extensive reading and Duoliingo helped me to learn a bit of grammar and exercises and my abilities of understanding improved nicely. Said that, probably that was meant to happen anyway with a different resource and probably faster. I also have a methode90 book that progresses with a nice fast pace but almost all the time I was too tired because of Duolingo to use it as well. I guess that I can now drop Duolingo and do the two books of Assimil + methode90. Once finished that my plan was to pass to the perfectionment dutch assimil and a intermediate grammar, then only native resources plus an advanced grammar. Should it work no? Or should I just stick to Duolingo and go through the end? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6704 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 6 of 11 15 September 2014 at 10:17pm | IP Logged |
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If Duolingo is something you want to use, do that. But don't let it be your only resource. I "strengthen my skills" once a day for Irish and Spanish, but it only takes a couple of minutes. And I maintain those languages in other ways as well.
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| sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5186 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish | Message 7 of 11 16 September 2014 at 3:30am | IP Logged |
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I agree that it works well as a review resource - especially for nailing down spelling and drilling. I can't imagine trying to learn Irish from scratch with it.
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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3842 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 8 of 11 17 September 2014 at 11:39pm | IP Logged |
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thank you for your opinions guys.
I decided to drop it. I started working with assimil and methode90 instead. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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