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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3847 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes  Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 1 of 14 05 November 2014 at 11:31am | IP Logged | ||
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I guys.
I'm planning to start studying Russian in the end of December. I would appreciate some advice about resources to use. This time I would like to try my compatriot Luca Lampariello's "full circle" approach to learn Russian at a high degree (hopefully better than my English). I know that he divides his study in three phases of 6 months each: Quality phase - 1st phase where he usually uses Teach Yourself and learns the basic of the language - 2nd phase where he usually uses Assimil and "more demanding resources" Quantity phase - 3rd phase where he uses a lot of native resources He also advocates starting slowly, with one chapter of Teach Yourself per week. So, I'm asking you advices to enrich this programs to fill the 3 phases. I know there is a lot of material and I don't want to read endless lists of free resources. I prefer to pay for a good book. (By the way Teach Yourself and Assimil can also be put in discussion if there are similar resources that for what concerns Russian are superior). Thank you very much in advance! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4507 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 2 of 14 05 November 2014 at 11:54am | IP Logged | ||
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For Russian, Assimil >>> Teach Yourself. I would use Assimil, I got way more mileage out
of it. For Russian music, games, memes, or any cultural information, get an account on Vkontakte. I learned half my Russian through social networks. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3847 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 3 of 14 05 November 2014 at 11:56am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks @tarvos!
So in your opinion Teach Yourself is not worth use it? And you advice to use Assimil from the beginning? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3847 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 4 of 14 05 November 2014 at 2:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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Other point.
Since my biggest discover is that it helps me more to boost comprehension learning the grammar than studying a huge list of words (that will be learnt more efficiently by reading), and I need it even more if I start using Assimil from scratch, what are the best grammars for Russian in a language in this list: English, French, Italian, Spanish? Thank you again 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4507 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 5 of 14 05 November 2014 at 2:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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You can use it, but I generally would only use TY if Assimil or a better method for
immigrants is not available. I dislike TY/COlloquial recordings (too little audio, too much English). The explanations are okay, but they don't cover enough material. For me, TY Russian was not enough and I actually used three textbooks at the same time. An old version of Colloquial (without audio), Assimil, and TY. I finished them all, but TY was by far the worst of them. There are other methods out there that you can use, such as the New Penguin Russian course. In the Netherlands and UK, you can find a method called Ruslan intended for classroom use. I believe there is Michel Thomas. Personally, the only one I still occasionally refer to is the Assimil one, and let's face it - that edition is hilarious. It also includes part of a poem by Lermontov. Eventually, it doesn't hugely matter which one you pick. I'm not going to stop you from buying anything. As for eventual progress, mine has always hinged on the fact that I have a strong connection to the Russophone world. For me it's a language that you have to use every day and I do. Russian is a tough master to grapple with in my opinion and it's definitely one you need a feel for in practice through living it, living the culture, knowing the people. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4644 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 6 of 14 05 November 2014 at 3:28pm | IP Logged | ||
Terence Wade: A Comprehensive Russian Grammar 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 6956 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 7 of 14 05 November 2014 at 5:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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To get myself up to speed in Russian and have just enough of a passive knowledge to use textbooks published in Russian, I've been learning the grammar using "New Penguin Russian Course" and "Oxford Take off in Russian". Both courses are good for beginners and inexpensive.
Once I finish those, I'll use some stuff from readers (e.g. Beginner's Russian Reader, Russian language articles) before dealing with textbooks for Turkic languages meant for Russian-speaking learners (i.e. authentic Russian when teaching foreign languages). Basically I'm skipping Luca's second stage, because much of the second stage for me would be relevant if I also wanted to use Russian actively and with even less reliance on a dictionary while reading some text in the language. See also "Recommended Russian audio course?" 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| chokofingrz Pentaglot Senior Member England Joined 4989 days ago 241 posts - 430 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Japanese, Catalan, Luxembourgish | Message 8 of 14 05 November 2014 at 10:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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After starting in Assimil, a good next step - part qualitative, part quantitative - is the "Ilya Frank method". The bilingual texts are on his website.
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