justinwilliams Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6487 days ago 321 posts - 327 votes 3 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Italian
| Message 9 of 23 31 March 2007 at 10:00am | IP Logged |
reason 2) accounts for all its difficulty in my opinion.
You can even get things pronounced backward: regarder=ergarder
Il is pronounced i and elle=a here...
Elle n'est pas encore arrivée=È pas encore arrivée.
Try Quebec French first and if you get it you're on your way to be the greatest listener of the world! French French will be SO EASY in comparison.
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aaapple Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6249 days ago 23 posts - 24 votes Speaks: English*, French
| Message 10 of 23 07 April 2007 at 3:48pm | IP Logged |
"Spalbon. Sel suivant."
Ari, Your phonetic rendition is pretty good. Hmmmm. Still, I don't think
French is hard to understand.
Any language that is new to the listener sounds fast. I believe I read
somewhere that Spanish is faster than French.
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jtaylor247 Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6012 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: English*, French
| Message 11 of 23 20 November 2007 at 6:40pm | IP Logged |
Someone said they used cartoons. Which ones?
I am just starting to be able to understand french while listening to it at full speed. An exhilerating experiencing after starting at the news with my mouth a jar for months. I'd love to have more material to get up to speed though.
Merci.
Edited by jtaylor247 on 20 November 2007 at 6:41pm
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LilleOSC Senior Member United States lille.theoffside.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6489 days ago 545 posts - 546 votes 4 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 12 of 23 21 November 2007 at 11:50am | IP Logged |
jtaylor247 wrote:
I'd love to have more material to get up to speed though.
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You could try listening to French TV and radio a lot. Is it true that they use a different register of Metropolitan French in movies, instead of a high register like the one used in French television and radio?
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6070 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 13 of 23 22 November 2007 at 3:33am | IP Logged |
I watched the 1987 film Au Revoir Les Enfants with the accompanying script in French. Comparing the film soundtrack with the script, I was struck by the same skipping and slurring of sounds in colloquial French that has been alluded to by others on this thread.
I think, with time, and exposure, you get used to it and can decipher it. It may be a particular feature of Parisian French. Belgian French has a slightly slower tempo.
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LilleOSC Senior Member United States lille.theoffside.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6489 days ago 545 posts - 546 votes 4 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 14 of 23 22 November 2007 at 10:01am | IP Logged |
William Camden wrote:
I watched the 1987 film Au Revoir Les Enfants with the accompanying script in French. Comparing the film soundtrack with the script, I was struck by the same skipping and slurring of sounds in colloquial French that has been alluded to by others on this thread.
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Thats good to know. I thought it was weird that French movies were harder to understand than TV and radio. I just assumed it was a lower register.
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fsc Senior Member United States Joined 6127 days ago 100 posts - 117 votes Studies: French
| Message 15 of 23 23 November 2007 at 1:25pm | IP Logged |
HyeLez�n wrote:
Why is french comprehension so difficult when compared to other languages? I've been studying french for about 5 months now, and I feel I'm making great progress; but comprehension is very difficult.
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I have been doing Pimsleur for 4 months and I wish I could say I was making great progress. I supplement my Pimsleur with 45 minutes or more a day of French podcasts. After the first 4 hours (8 lessons) of Pimsleur, I was excited that I could pick out some words from these podcasts. Now, 4 months later I am on lesson 4 of French 3 and can say I haven't increased my comprehension of these podcasts much at all. I realize Pimsleur only teaches about 500 words and unfortunately it teaches some that I can't ever see using, at least not this early in my learning. For example, Branch Manager, old harbor, professor, several names of countries or universities, etc. How about teaching me how to order a salad or a soda? Maybe that's in later lessons but I need to know that 1000 times more than I need to know "branch manager". Pimsleur says they teach functional words but as you can see, they also teach ones that aren't.
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fsc Senior Member United States Joined 6127 days ago 100 posts - 117 votes Studies: French
| Message 16 of 23 23 November 2007 at 1:35pm | IP Logged |
justinwilliams wrote:
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This is interesting and gives me some hope since most of the Podcasts I listen to are from Quebec. I actually thought I was understanding more than the news podcasts from Radio France International. It just seemed the people in the Quebec podcasts were speaking more slowly and casually as they are pausing to think about things before speaking. The French news podcasts, are read very fast, despite the program having the French word for "easy" in the title.
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