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jeff_lindqvist
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 Message 17 of 24
02 May 2012 at 1:11am | IP Logged 
Another update.

Spreadsheet stats from 2011:

Listening: 2 hours (impressive, isn't it?)
Reading: 11,5 hours
Analysis: 0,5 hours (grammar etc.)
Shadowing: 0 hours
Total: 14 hours
Average: 2 minutes/day

Better than nothing, I guess.

No new words added to Anki.
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 Message 18 of 24
16 May 2012 at 1:29am | IP Logged 
I've decided to participate in Super Challenge to see what will happen with my Mandarin.

If I'm going to reach one of the goals, I'd say it's the movies (I have an OK collection of classical kung fu flicks from Shaw Brothers etc., five complete tv-series on VCD/DVD, about one meter of instructional videos (kung fu) on VCD, the list goes on...

Most (if not all) of my reading will be based on what I can get at the library. Despite having studied the language formally, I know my limits and will go for children's books for starters. They do have a lot of pictures but for the time being I count each book as "a book". If my reading skills improve, I will go on to more advanced material and in that case, things will even out. If not, 100 children's books are still more than none.

Movies so far:
醉拳张三 episode 1, May 1
醉拳张三 episode 2, May 2
醉拳张三 episode 3, May 13 (each episode runs for ~45 minutes)

Books so far:
Xuexiao li you "gui" (Helena Bross) May 10
Zai senlin li mi le lu (Helena Bross) May 13
Yi ge zhuang de manman de beibao (Helena Bross) May 15
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 Message 19 of 24
28 May 2012 at 8:05pm | IP Logged 
Six more books:
Shijie shang zui piaoliang de yanjing (Helena Bross) May 19
Yi ge xiao qian hongse he xuduo xiaotaoqi (Carin Wirsén) May 20
Yi ge xiao qian hongse he xuduo xiaotaoqi zai nar? (Carin Wirsén) May 20
Jipo de xia xue tian/Kipper’s snowy day (Mick Inkpen) May 20
Maoruisi zai lifadian (Lotta Olsson Anderberg) May 23
Maoruisi he Geruifu (Lotta Olsson Anderberg) May 24

Lots of pictures and all intended for children, obviously. I read three of the titles the same day (all of them in about 15 minutes!) so one can imagine how little "content" there was. It's still a beneficial exercise for me. By the end of the challenge I will at least have gone through all of the children's books at our library. Maybe several times!
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 Message 20 of 24
03 June 2012 at 12:06am | IP Logged 
Some more "books":
#10 Maoruisi he wazi (Lotta Olsson Anderberg) May 29
#11 Maoruisi kanjia (Lotta Olsson Anderberg) May 29
#12 Zaoshang de Maoruisi (Lotta Olsson Anderberg) May 31
#13 Maoruisi zai da caodi (Lotta Olsson Anderberg) May 31
#14 Maoruisi xizao ji (Lotta Olsson Anderberg) May 31
#15 Maoruisi dao xiangxia qu (Lotta Olsson Anderberg) June 1
#16 Chang, Monica 媽祖回娘家 June 2

Still only children's books with a lot of pictures. I don't understand everything even at this low level, but I feel that my reading skills are improving little by little. The latest title was written in traditional characters.

I'll probably read all titles again before the time is up.
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 Message 21 of 24
09 July 2012 at 1:08am | IP Logged 
Time for a monthly update:
#17 精卫填海 (Jiannian Feng) June 4
#18 愚公移山 (Jiannian Feng) June 8
#19 Pang nainai he ta de san zhi xiao maomi (Yanrong He) June 8
#20 过候山 June 17
#21 多才多藝的格麗施 (Mary Hoffman) June 25
#22 阿罗有枝彩色笔 (Crockett Johnson) June 26
#23 你认识长袜子皮皮马?(Astrid Lindgren) June 28

The latest two (#22 and 23) were a bit easier to follow, maybe the language was less "advanced", maybe I recognized more characters, I don't know.

There's no shortcut to reading Chinese. One question is how to get the vocabulary if you don't want to study word lists. For any of the European languages I've studied (as well as a couple of related languages I haven't studied) I'm sure I could pick up a random book and "understand" much more than even a children's book in Chinese. Any word is spelled out and even if I've never seen it before, there's a chance I can figure out what it sounds like, the function of the word in the sentence, and so on. At the moment, a new character in Chinese gives me no clue. At all.
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 Message 22 of 24
01 January 2014 at 5:54pm | IP Logged 
My Super Challenge was an epic fail. How did I think that I would be able to squeeze in 100 books OR movies? Doing both was even more unreachable for me, during these circumstances.

Now, at least I did something in 2012.

Spreadsheets stats:
Scriptorium: 2.25 hours
Listening: 9.25 hours
Reading: 13.25 hours
Analysis: 15 hours (grammar etc.)
Shadowing: 15.5 hours
Total: 55.25 hours
Average: 9 minutes/day

Apart from the books mentioned above, I went through some study material (hence the "analysis" hours):
Character Text for Colloquial Chinese: Simplified Character Version (Ping Cheng T'ung)
Boya Chinese: Elementary Starter I

Films watched (apart from those mentioned above):
True legend (1h50min)
14 Blades (1h48min)
Blood Brothers (1h33 min)
Shanghai Triad (1h43min)

And in 2013?
3.75 hours of reading (...sentences from Elementary Chinese I and II aloud).

Embarrassing, I know.
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 Message 23 of 24
26 January 2014 at 11:08am | IP Logged 
hmm, this inspires me to keep a spreadsheet of the time I spend on each skill... I'm thinkin about doing it...! And
don't be embarrassed. Life is a busy thing, and we often have to come up with strategies in order to do something
amazingly different than the rest of the population. ...such as learning a foreign language!
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 Message 24 of 24
26 January 2014 at 11:54am | IP Logged 
jeff_lindqvist wrote:

Apart from the books mentioned above, I went through some study material (hence the "analysis" hours): Character Text for Colloquial Chinese: Simplified Character Version (Ping Cheng T'ung)

I tried to send you a PM about this, but your mailbox seems to be full.


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