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Crush
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 Message 1 of 120
20 November 2008 at 3:46am | IP Logged 
So far, I have done:
For German:
-three years of high school courses
-fragmented self-studying

For Spanish:
-read through the "Everything Learning Spanish" book and took a lot of notes
-spent a solid month trying to figure out how to do an alveolar trill, though I still can't put it into words very well and the single 'r' gives me a LOT of trouble when paired with d's and t's
-Pimsleur I twice (though doing 2 or 3 lessons a day both times) and now on lesson 11 of Pimsleur II
-Michel Thomas Foundation through Advanced CD 3 (I will start CD 4 tomorrow)
-Rosetta Stone Spanish Level I and half of Level II (my computer got a virus and it hasn't been fixed yet, but I think I will drop the RS anyway)

For Russian:
-some university studies and e-mails with Russian friends

For French:
-nothing :P

EDIT: I have decided to modify this into a "TAC" log.

I guess I'll rate my current standing (as of the 25th of November, 2008) in my intended languages of study:
German and Spanish: mid-upper beginner
Russian and French: nil!

Edited by Crush on 05 October 2009 at 10:27pm

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Crush
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21 November 2008 at 2:20am | IP Logged 
Today I finished the final CD of MT Advanced and did lesson 12 of Pimsleur twice. I think I'm going to go through MT Advanced one more time to try to get the verb tenses embedded in my memory a bit better and see if I can find any of the other MT courses at the library.

EDIT:
I forgot to mention that I decided to start doing Mnemosyne SRS stuff to see if that helps me out any. Over the course of a few sessions I went through all 750 entries in one of the Spanish sets I downloaded off the Mnemosyne website to put them into rotation. A lot of them were familiar to me and even more were cognates.

I do have a question about SRS, right now I have each entry entered as Spanish Question/English Answer and English Question/Spanish Answer, so each Spanish word is in there twice, once as the question and once as the answer. Is this a good way to go about it or is this wasting more time than it is worth?

Edited by Crush on 21 November 2008 at 5:56am

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Crush
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 Message 3 of 120
23 November 2008 at 8:26pm | IP Logged 
Updates:
21 Nov.:
-lesson 13 of Pimsleur twice
-MT Advanced CD1
-SRS reviews

22 Nov.:
-lesson 14 of Pimsleur
-about 2/3 of MT Advanced CD2
-found a book at the library called "A Frequency Dictionary of Spanish" so I wrote down the words up to #500 that I didn't already know (like el/la/a/de and some common verbs/nouns that all beginning Spanish courses use pretty extensively). I typed the first 70 or so into Mnemosyne (giving me about 970 entries, or about 485 words/phrases since each is in there twice).
-SRS reviews

23 Nov.:
-finished MT Advanced CD2
-reviewed MT Advanced CD3
-Pimsleur lesson 15 twice
-SRS reviews

Edited by Crush on 24 November 2008 at 1:20am

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Crush
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 Message 4 of 120
25 November 2008 at 3:47am | IP Logged 
24 Nov.:
-finished MT Advanced -- 1 hr
-Pimsleur lesson 16 twice -- 1 hr
-picked up the MT Builder from the library, but I'm not really sure if it is going to be very effective for me. Did half of CD 1 -- approx. 40 minutes
-SRS reviews, there were about 180 to do and I was able to recall about 90% of them, although I am still not sure what the most effective way to do them is. I've read mixed reviews about going from Target language to Native language and vice versa, currently I am using both.
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Crush
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26 November 2008 at 7:43am | IP Logged 
25 Nov.:
-finished CD1 of the MT Builder -- approx 40 minutes
Towards the end I think I was dozing off and responding automatically instead of actually thinking about what I was saying. I'm going to try to just finish CD2 in one sitting tomorrow, it is pretty boring though.
-Pimsleur lesson 17 twice -- 1 hr
By contrast, this lesson seemed to go by really quickly.
-SRS reviews -- about 400
I added the rest of the words on the list I took from the frequency dictionary, maybe 246 words. I should head back tomorrow and write down some more because I really feel like this is having quick tangible effects on my reading comprehension. Oh, and I decided that I am just going to do Spanish->English cards from now on.

After I finish all the Michel Thomas things, I think I may start on the FSI courses. I may decide to finish Pimsleur level II first, but I do want to jump into FSI while all the grammar from MT is still really fresh (I have a feeling that MT covers more grammar than Pimsleur).
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TheElvenLord
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 Message 6 of 120
26 November 2008 at 10:21am | IP Logged 
[quoteI do have a question about SRS, right now I have each entry entered as Spanish Question/English Answer and English Question/Spanish Answer, so each Spanish word is in there twice, once as the question and once as the answer. Is this a good way to go about it or is this wasting more time than it is worth?
[/quote]

I believe it's fine. I've never really done it en masse with just one way.
But, I can suspect that doing it one way will increase only active or only passive and not both.

Well done so far - and best of luck to you

TEL
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Othar
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 Message 7 of 120
26 November 2008 at 10:36am | IP Logged 
Crush wrote:
I do have a question about SRS, right now I have each entry entered as Spanish Question/English Answer and English Question/Spanish Answer, so each Spanish word is in there twice, once as the question and once as the answer. Is this a good way to go about it or is this wasting more time than it is worth?

You don't have to input your words twice. There is a checkbox "Add vice versa too" in the window for adding cards. The window for editing the deck has this option too when you right click entries.
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Crush
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 Message 8 of 120
27 November 2008 at 5:06am | IP Logged 
Thanks, TEL :)

And tja, that's what I've been doing (for adding new cards) but I didn't know about the option when editing the deck, which might be really convenient if I change my mind again later on, so thanks!

And today I finished the MT Builder course. I ended up enjoying the second CD more than the first for some reason, I guess because it was less of a review and more of a "builder". All in all, I'm glad I went through the whole thing. I also did Pimsleur lesson 18 once, I would've liked to have done it again, but I've just finished the builder course now and it's pretty late. Also did my SRS reviews for the day and was a little disappointed that I didn't retain a lot of the words I put in yesterday. Oh well, I did add a lot of words and I'm pretty sure that after a few days they'll start to fall in line.

So today:
MT Builder -- approx 80 minutes
Pimsleur -- 30 minutes


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