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| QiuJP Triglot Senior Member Singapore Joined 5853 days ago 428 posts - 597 votes  Speaks: Mandarin*, EnglishC2, French Studies: Czech, GermanB1, Russian, Japanese | Message 1961 of 3737 26 September 2011 at 9:34am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
When you insert commas that look unnatural in English (or Chinese), because in other languages(German, Russian), which you are learning, these commas are necessary, and you are considered uneducated, if you do not insert them. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5691 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 1962 of 3737 26 September 2011 at 11:03am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
I've totally started doing that. Now when I write a sentence like this one in English, every part of my brain is screaming "RUN-ON SENTENCE!" (I originally wrote that previous sentence without any commas, but I couldn't bear it and had to go back and add the comma after "English".) 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5054 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 1963 of 3737 26 September 2011 at 11:32am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Isn't the comma before "when" necessary. Why do we have to put a comma after "English", but do not have to put a comma after "now"? Edited by Марк on 26 September 2011 at 11:32am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5691 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 1964 of 3737 26 September 2011 at 3:03pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
No, Mark, you're absolutely right, one should indeed theoretically have two commas in my example sentence! The reason I wrote it like that was to purposefully show how I need to consciously REMOVE commas now, even if I have to halfway-give-in by including one after all. ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4826 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 1965 of 3737 26 September 2011 at 4:46pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
This is interesting: http://grammar.wikia.com/wiki/Oxford_english_prepositions
i.e. so long as the meaning is clear, we can remove as much punctuation as we want in modern British English. This is certainly the message that has been both implicit and explicit, in developments in English during my adult life. So I used to minimise them. I think, like Jinx, I now tend to put more in again, owing to the influence of German, which has some strict rules, but even then, in some cases, allows you to put extra ones in if they make the meaning clearer. You can't leave out the compulsory ones though. Edited by montmorency on 26 September 2011 at 4:48pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5054 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 1966 of 3737 26 September 2011 at 6:25pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Then full stops and especially question marks must be omitted. Questions have special constructions and new sentences start with a capital letter. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| LebensForm Senior Member Austria Joined 5048 days ago 212 posts - 264 votes Studies: German | Message 1967 of 3737 27 September 2011 at 4:01pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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When your local German channel is still out, beem almost 2 weeks and you've had enough so you are going to go over there and talk to the man in charge of cable stuff. I wonder if anyone else even knows that it's not working, eh they just don't care like I do :(
When you look forward to your language labs. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
 meramarina Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5965 days ago 1341 posts - 2303 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Italian, French Personal Language Map | Message 1968 of 3737 29 September 2011 at 4:30am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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You know you are a language nerd when you want to practice your languages, but that's simply impossible because you've just had emergency dental surgery. So to console yourself as you recover, you try to invent a language program for the half-numb, half-agonized, swollen and somewhat drugged language learner:
Wanna lern ta ffffpeeek a lankfish like Ffpaniff ur Ruffiin wiff da befft meffet? (spit blood) Fell dats too bat, gonna hafta wait. Dammit hurt. Fut up and go ta fweep till dwugs go way Edited by meramarina on 29 September 2011 at 4:31am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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