tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4048 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch
| Message 3497 of 3737 20 January 2015 at 7:53pm | IP Logged |
When you would like that your language had the inclusive and exclusive dual, to avoid embarrassing misunderstandings.
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 3498 of 3737 21 January 2015 at 10:27am | IP Logged |
When you know what Tristano is speaking about
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psy88 Senior Member United States Joined 5592 days ago 469 posts - 882 votes Studies: Spanish*, Japanese, Latin, French
| Message 3499 of 3737 31 January 2015 at 4:48am | IP Logged |
when you really wish you knew what Tristano meant and are somewhat envious of those who do
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 3500 of 3737 31 January 2015 at 10:42am | IP Logged |
It's about having a distinction between the two kinds of "we", including and excluding the person you're addressing. (like, "we're going to Italy! ...um no, we're not taking YOU with us")
More info here...
btw tristano, Indonesian has it ;) well not specifically the dual kind which is extremely rare.
Edited by Serpent on 31 January 2015 at 10:47am
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Wurstmann Diglot Newbie China Joined 3601 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin
| Message 3501 of 3737 31 January 2015 at 10:48am | IP Logged |
Mandarin has it too! 咱们 vs 我们
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Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6583 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 3502 of 3737 31 January 2015 at 11:33am | IP Logged |
Wurstmann wrote:
Mandarin has it too! 咱们 vs 我们 |
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Mandarin has indeed an incluseive first person plural (not dual), but it doesn't have an exclusive one.
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ALSO, you know you're a language nerd when you're on your vacation in Cape Verde, for which you have been intensively studying Portuguese for five months, and you spend your time fantasizing about Czech (and come home realizing you should probably do German first, after all).
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Wurstmann Diglot Newbie China Joined 3601 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin
| Message 3503 of 3737 31 January 2015 at 11:59am | IP Logged |
Ari wrote:
Wurstmann wrote:
Mandarin has it too! 咱们 vs 我们 |
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Mandarin has indeed an incluseive first person plural (not dual), but it doesn't have an exclusive one. |
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Oh, right.
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Arthaey Groupie United States arthaey.com Joined 5047 days ago 97 posts - 155 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 3504 of 3737 31 January 2015 at 5:25pm | IP Logged |
Languages throughout the world have an inclusive/exclusive "we" distinction: http://wals.info/chapter/39
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