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| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5986 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes  Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 57 of 65 08 September 2010 at 11:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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8.9.2010
subtotal: 4.75 LR + 1 anki total study time so far: 19.5 Played Go with my gf in the morning, so I didn't get started with studying until 9am. I spent the first hour doing Anki, which got me mostly caught up in my various decks, except for my Go problems deck and part of my Swedish deck. I did almost an hour of LR after that (going over "Pojken" again), but then decided to have a nap because I was sleepy, and it lasted almost 2 hours. Next I started on Harry Potter #3, just for a change of pace. It's a bit difficult to catch all the words that I don't know, because the narrator's pronunciation isn't super clear. This'd be much better with a parallel text. I can't point to anything in particular that I'm hugely better at yet, but it does feel like I'm improving a little bit. Since I already know a lot about Swedish spelling and pronunciation, I guess I'll probably catch onto a lot of the words, but it really feels like I'm being held back by the lack of a parallel text for any of these. I'd really love to read the Swedish words as they're being said, and still have the English translated meaning. Right now it feels like I'm getting much more solid at all the basics, and I also sort of accidentally think up Swedish phrases for things that I want to say. Note: just found a Tribble reference in harry potter #3...page 49 of the PDF, when they're in the magical creature shop, they see "a basket of funny custard-colored furballs that were humming loudly". Interesting to find out that J.K. Rowling is a star trek fan ;) Edited by doviende on 08 September 2010 at 11:18pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5986 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 58 of 65 10 September 2010 at 9:57am | IP Logged | ||
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9.9.2010
subtotal: 8.25hrs of study today total over 5 days: 27.25hrs I gave up on Harry Potter today. The audiobook was going too slowly, and reading the English was boring. Perhaps if I had a parallel text, it'd be more interesting, but somehow I doubt it. Instead, I've switched over to "The Alchemist" by Paulo Coelho. I have the English translation as a PDF, and I'm listening to the Swedish audiobook version. The book is quite good so far, and I'm enjoying it. Currently, I have a sense that most of the words just make sense....at least while I'm reading the English version anyway. Maybe that's how this works...certain words start to make sense, or you get a vague sense of them, and as you hear them more and more, they become more solid. ... update: the book was fantastic, I finished the whole thing today. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5986 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 59 of 65 11 September 2010 at 7:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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10.09.2010 - Day 6
subtotal: 3.25hrs total studying so far: 30.5hrs Today I started again with The Alchemist, reading it all the way through for the second time. I'm getting a bit better at firmly picking out the new words that I don't know, although it'd be much better if I were reading a parallel text, like I've mentioned before. For a little while, I tried following along in my paperback novel in Swedish as I read the English translation and listened to the Swedish audiobook, but it's a bit of a hastle. I can almost switch entirely to the Swedish version for this book, but I think I'll save that until next time, just so I know the story better. It's sort of strange how everything feels so familiar and makes so much sense when you read the English translation while listening. It makes it seem like all the words should be easy. I worry sometimes that I'm not learning enough of the new words, but I'm trying to trust in the process and just keep going. I'm also disappointed that I've been doing so few hours compared to my goals, but I'm still pretty satisfied with my running average of over 5 hours per day. All those small distractions sure add up, though. At least I'm getting better at eliminating the bigger distractions that take me away for hours at a time. Tonight I'm going out to play board games in German, though. It'll prevent me from hitting 8 hours of Swedish today, but at least it'll be really good for my German. Edited by doviende on 11 September 2010 at 7:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5986 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 60 of 65 13 September 2010 at 7:49am | IP Logged | ||
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11.09.2010 - Day 7
subtotal: 3 hours project total: 33.5 hours continued re-reading The Alchemist this morning, listening to Swedish while reading English. I think I want to try it with both in Swedish next, but haven't decided yet. Might also move on to Stieg Larsson. Only got 2.5hrs in before the evening, because I went out with friends in the afternoon, and then just another half hour in the evening. 3 hours of Swedish work is normally quite good, but it's not up to my goals for this project. :/ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5986 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 61 of 65 13 September 2010 at 7:53am | IP Logged | ||
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12.09.2010 - Day 8
subtotal: 10.75 hours (new personal best :) project total: 44.25 I've got some catching up to do, today. To hit my minimum, I need to do 6.5 hours in order to have 40 hours over 8 days. I've started on Stieg Larsson's "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo", which is known in Swedish as "Män som hatar kvinnor" ("Men that hate women"). I'm reading the English as I listen to the Swedish audiobook, and I must say that it's quite difficult still. While "The Alchemist" was very simple language throughout, this one has a lot more technical economics and journalism terms, and I haven't quite gotten used to the speaker. He speaks quite fast, so I'm not yet able to pick out every word he says. (at the time of writing, I've listened to an hour of it so far). I have to concentrate quite hard on listening, but I also need to read the story since I haven't read it before. I guess this is why people recommend that you read the book entirely in English first...that way I wouldn't have to spend so much effort on the English text. .... Ok, after another hour I'm finding it much easier to keep up with the new narrator. There are still lots of new words in there because it's a tougher book, but I can follow along with almost every word and pick out the ones I don't know, and I try hard to match them up with the English text. It's going much more smoothly now, and I'm sure it'll only get better once I put in some more hours today. ... Still really enjoying "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo". I've done 8 hours of LR today by 7pm, and still going. I notice that I'm having some trouble paying attention to the Swedish audio. Sometimes I get distracted and read ahead a few paragraphs before I realize that I've ignored some audio. ... So, it turned out that today was my personal best. I finally made it up to the mythical 10 hour mark. It took me 15 hours of actual time to get in 10 hours of productivity, and that was with minimal cooking/eating/showering time, and without actually leaving my apartment the entire day. I guess all that wasted time really does add up. This makes me less confident about my hopes to have a full week of 10-hour-days, but perhaps with some more efficiency I could manage a week of 8-hour-days. Edited by doviende on 13 September 2010 at 8:34am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6582 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 62 of 65 13 September 2010 at 8:13am | IP Logged | ||
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Go, Doviende, go! Slight nitpick: "Män som hatar kvinnor". Only one 'n'.
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| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5986 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 63 of 65 13 September 2010 at 8:34am | IP Logged | ||
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oh right, woops. fixed.
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| Adrean TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member France adrean83.wordpress.c Joined 6168 days ago 348 posts - 411 votes Speaks: FrenchC1 | Message 64 of 65 13 September 2010 at 9:58am | IP Logged | ||
I'm reading the same book in French, however at a very slowly and leisurely pace. In French the book is called 'Les hommes qui n'aimaient pas les femmes'. Unfortunately I don't any audio to follow the book with, so I'm shamefully and naively simply reading. I have found almost the exact same thing as you concerning the technical aspects of the novel. I had to underline a lot of words which I probably won't get around to looking up as per usual. Can I give you a little cheat which I discovered in reading this book. I read like 30 pages and was not getting anything; the plots, the names, the connections etc. I simply hired the film and voila everything is as clear as day as I read along now. I even have the added interest of picking out where the film diverged from the book. Congrats on getting 10 hours of study done in one day. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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