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Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6472 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 217 of 392 28 April 2011 at 10:36am | IP Logged |
ellasevia wrote:
Sprachprofi wrote:
Here's a nice thought: even with April being a difficult month,
your hours-per-day average is still well above last year's! |
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I never thought about it this way, but I think you're right. Last year I was usually only
getting in an hour or so per day and thought it was a lot. Huh. Did I mention my average
time in my log sometime last year or were you just estimating? |
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You didn't calculate it afaik, but you wrote it was always between 1 and 2 hours. This
year you're squarely over 2 hours.
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| hribecek Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5351 days ago 1243 posts - 1458 votes Speaks: English*, Czech, Spanish Studies: Italian, Polish, Slovak, Hungarian, Toki Pona, Russian
| Message 218 of 392 28 April 2011 at 7:36pm | IP Logged |
ellasevia wrote:
Thanks, hribecek. I've actually been deliberating on this and going back and forth on it for a couple weeks, so it definitely wasn't an easy choice. Your Mandarin sounds like my situation with Swahili. Are you planning on reviving it at some point later this year?
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I'm going to leave it dormant until I get the taste for it again, whenever that might be. I can't use lack of time as an excuse though, my Mandarin was overrun by my love of Hungarian and desire to dedicate all my time to that.
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| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6144 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 219 of 392 30 April 2011 at 6:19am | IP Logged |
Quarter 2: Japanese, Dutch, Russian, Persian
Week 17: April 23 – 29
Total Study Time This Week: 4.5 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 260.25 hours
Average Study Time This Week: 0.64 hours/day
Average Study Time in 2011: 2.19 hours/day
Don’t you just love horrible weeks? I do. Which is good, because I seem to be having my fair share of them lately.
I don’t remember what happened last Saturday, but somehow I didn’t have any time to study. Sunday was Easter so I had to attend a family event for that, but I got a conversation in Swedish (described previously) and one in Japanese out of it so I can’t complain about that. The rest of the week was filled mostly by mental and emotional turmoil and exhaustion for varying reasons. Today, finally, I studied again for the first time since Sunday so that I can report something more than one hour of study this week.
The May Six Week Challenge officially begins on Sunday and I’ll be working on Indonesian, but I’ve cheated and started early anyway. I’ll be recording my Indonesian in this log along with everything else, but only superficially. If you’re for some reason interested in reading the details then you should refer to my 6WC Indonesian log.
日本語
Total Study Time This Week: 1 hour
Total Study Time in 2011: 24.75 hours
- Japanese Sentence Patterns, Ch. 4
- Conversing in Japanese!!!
I worked for a while out of my sentence pattern book and learned several some new forms such as the “~たところです” form to express something which occurred in the recent past:
この小包は今着いたところだ。= This package has just arrived.
木村さんは家を売ったところです。= Mr. Kimura has just sold his house.
Later on, I was in the car with my grandfather’s Japanese friend and we ended up having an entire conversation in Japanese! It lasted for nearly the entire car ride, so I’d guess it was probably at least twenty minutes worth of speaking in Japanese. She speaks English very well after having lived in the United States so long, so I occasionally had to ask for a word, but generally I was able to say what I wanted to, if very roughly. One thing I was painfully aware of was my constant accidental mixing of the plain and polite forms within the conversation. Part of it was probably that I wasn’t sure which I should be using, since she is elderly and thus deserving respect but I’ve known her basically my whole life and she’s almost like a member of the family, so I felt that the plain form might have been more appropriate. Opinions?
РУССКИЙ
Total Study Time This Week: 0.75 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 14 hours
- MT Vocabulary
- STG Russian Lesson 2
I listened to half an hour of the Michel Thomas Russian Vocabulary course while riding my bike today, during which I noticed how much Russian I’ve forgotten since I last worked on it. It was quite a shock. Often I wouldn’t remember how to say something at all, or instead the Polish form would come to mind first. Up until now I was still planning on bringing at least Polish back after its trial period, but if I determine that it’s simply too much confusion to be studying two Slavic languages at once, I’ll be forced to drop Polish until my Russian gets to at least a high-ish intermediate level.
The second thing I did with Russian was beginning to work out of a book which I’ve had lying around for a couple years but have never done anything with. I typed up most of the vocabulary for the second lesson (the first one was just teaching the alphabet) but had to leave after fifteen minutes and didn’t have a chance to finish once I got back, hence the 45 minutes spent on Russian today/this week.
Français
Total Study Time This Week: 1.5 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 12 hours
- Movie in French
I decided to watch a movie in French so I picked one from our collection which I haven't seen a thousand times but still enjoy and watched the dubbed French version. Since I haven't watched it as much as many others, I didn't have all the lines memorized so watching it was actually exercising my French listening skills. Hence counting its full length as study time. :)
Bahasa Indonesia
Total Study Time This Week: 1.25 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 1.25 hours
- Learning Indonesian Podcast, #1
- TY Indonesian Lesson 1
- TY Complete Indonesian Lesson 1
Selamat malam! Nama saya Philip dan saya tinggal di Amerika. Hari ini saya sudah belajar Bahasa Indonesia dengan buku saya.
^^ Amazing Indonesian skills. See Indonesian log for details.
漢字
Total Kanji Reviews This Week: 1 review
Total Restudied Kanji This Week: 0 characters
Total Restudied Kanji in 2011: 700 characters
One is still better than none, right?
EDIT: I watched a movie in French after posting this, so I added that to the week's studies.
Edited by ellasevia on 01 May 2011 at 7:13am
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| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6144 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 220 of 392 01 May 2011 at 7:58am | IP Logged |
Quarter 2: Greek, Romanian // Japanese, Dutch, Russian, Persian
APRIL 1-30
Total Study Time This Month: 41.5 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 262.75 hours
Average Study Time This Month: 1.38 hours/day
Average Study Time in 2011: 2.19 hours/day
BLUE: Days I studied
And that’s it! The hardest month of the school year is over! Well, in 12 minutes, but who’s counting?
Frankly, I don’t like the trend that’s happening:
January: 84.5 hours
February: 78 hours
March: 58.75 hours
April: 41.5 hours
It needs to stop. NOW. I intend for this to be reversed next month since things should be getting easier at school very soon. A month from today I’ll already be done with school and will be in Greece. Just that thought makes me incredibly relieved.
Anyways, April was a terrible month in every sense. My low hours count is probably due to the madness at school, semi-burnout (laziness + lack of motivation = nothing), extreme lack of time, and a whole bushel of miscellaneous personal problems which you probably don’t want to hear about. I’ll just leave it at that for now and hope that it can only get better from here. Here comes May!
ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ
Total Study Time This Month: 9 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 21.75 hours
- Ο Χάρι Πότερ και η Κάμαρα με τα Μυστικά, Ch. 5-18 (L-R)
- Reading in Greek (miscellaneous)
ROMÂNĂ
Total Study Time This Month: 3 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 14 hours
- Assimil Lessons 32-35
日本語
Total Study Time This Month: 9.25 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 24.75 hours
- Japanese Sentence Patterns, Ch. 2-4 and 7
- Japan Cup (won first place!)
- Conversing in Japanese
NEDERLANDS
Total Study Time This Month: 3.5 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 47.25 hours
- Writing/reading in Dutch
РУССКИЙ
Total Study Time This Month: 0.75 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 14 hours
- MT Russian Vocabulary Course
- STG Russian Lesson 2
فارسى
Total Study Time This Month: 0.50 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 38 hours
- Assimil Lessons 57 (passive), 8 (active)
Deutsch
Total Study Time This Month: 8.5 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 20 hours
- German Project (for school)
- Reading stories
- Essay writing
- German radio
Français
Total Study Time This Month: 3.25 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 12 hours
- French radio
- Harry Potter et la Coupe de Feu (only a couple pages)
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (French subtitles)
- My Life in Ruins (French dub)
Polski
Total Study Time This Month: 1.75 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 19.25 hours
- Spoken World Polish Lesson 3
- Polish food vocabulary (into Anki)
Bahasa Indonesia
Total Study Time This Month: 2 hours
Total Study Time in 2011: 2 hours
- Learning Indonesian Podcast, #1-6
- TY Indonesian Lesson 1
- TY Complete Indonesian Lesson 1
漢字
Total Kanji Reviews This Week: 282 reviews
Total Restudied Kanji This Week: 0 characters
Total Restudied Kanji in 2011: 700 characters
Italiano
- Il Piccolo Principe, Ch. 1-5
I discovered that I had a PDF version of Il Piccolo Principe downloaded onto my iPod so I read little bits of that whenever I was stranded somewhere and bored with nothing else to do. It’s very easy to understand, especially since I still remember the plot from when I read it in French two years ago.
Edited by ellasevia on 01 May 2011 at 8:08am
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5336 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 221 of 392 02 May 2011 at 1:28pm | IP Logged |
Really, really good move! I have been worried about you for some time, and seing that you make these painful cuts gives me a lot of hope. I am sure you will feel so much better once you don't have to have bad conscience any more. An even if I have probably said it before: Keep in mind that even a month where you feel you are being unproductive, you are doing a lot better than most others!Studying 4 languages is still pretty demanding.
I have to tell you that I have started Greek though. Nothing serious, I just want a few phrases before I (hopefully)go there on a short vacation, but I am counting on you for giving me a hand if I get stuck. Whatever questions I have will be super easy for you as I know absolutely no Greek from before.
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| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6144 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 222 of 392 02 May 2011 at 2:59pm | IP Logged |
Thank you so much for that encouragement, Solfrid Cristin! It was exactly the thing I needed to put me in a good mood as I woke up this morning. Knowing that people care about the well-being of both you and your studies is one of the things that makes this forum so wonderful. If I had told my parents that I was stopping Swahili, Romanian, and Polish, for example, I would have gotten an answer like "That's nice. Now go away."
I agree that studying even four languages is demanding and I'm noticing how much I have forgotten of each of my remaining languages (especially Persian, eek!) since I had last had the opportunity to really work on them. I don't know how I was doing it before. Between reducing the stress from studying so many languages and from resolving some other annoying personal problems, I'm already feeling much better.
Like I wrote in your log a moment ago, I'm glad to hear you've decided to work on Greek and I'd be happy to help with whatever I can. I hope your trip to Greece materializes and that you have a wonderful time there!
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5336 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 223 of 392 02 May 2011 at 7:45pm | IP Logged |
ellasevia wrote:
Thank you so much for that encouragement, Solfrid Cristin! It was exactly the thing I needed to put me in a good mood as I woke up this morning. Knowing that people care about the well-being of both you and your studies is one of the things that makes this forum so wonderful. If I had told my parents that I was stopping Swahili, Romanian, and Polish, for example, I would have gotten an answer like "That's nice. Now go away."
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The thing about parents is that they love you, but they may not neccesarily understand you. If you tell them, they probably would not appreciate the significance of it. We on the forum who are struggling with wanderlust and wanting to learn lots of languages do.
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| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5466 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian
| Message 224 of 392 03 May 2011 at 6:54am | IP Logged |
ellasevia wrote:
One thing I was painfully aware of was my constant accidental mixing
of the plain and polite forms within the conversation. Part of it was probably that I
wasn’t sure which I should be using, since she is elderly and thus deserving respect but
I’ve known her basically my whole life and she’s almost like a member of the family, so
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You did the right thing. If you think plain form is probably OK but you are not 100%
sure, just throw in a few "desu"s here and there for safety. Likewise if you want to try
switching from desu to plain form, just remove a few desu's here and there to see the
reaction. In other words, it's perfectly OK to mix the two forms. In fact, using
desu/masu for every single verb would sound very stilted and maybe even sarcastic.
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