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TAC 2013 Team Alef (Mid-Eastern) TEAM LOG | ||
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| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6144 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 113 of 168 04 January 2013 at 8:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hendrek, welcome! I'm glad to have another Persian-learner on the team. :)
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| Hendrek Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4884 days ago 152 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Persian | Message 114 of 168 04 January 2013 at 8:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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Awesome, this seems like it will be a very useful group... clearly, since just reading through this thread has given me several resources for Persian I've never seen before!
It's been such a challenge finding good materials for it compared to Italian that it's a little frustrating. I just created a log thread here. I will go through and click the "watch this topic" button on everyone's thread right now and get this started. Thanks again for letting me in. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4454 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 115 of 168 05 January 2013 at 11:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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I just came across this youtube video about common vocabulary to both Arabic and Hebrew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s95yAJye36w 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Przemek Hexaglot Senior Member Poland multigato.blogspot.c Joined 6477 days ago 107 posts - 174 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, SpanishC2, Italian, Portuguese, French Studies: Turkish, Hindi, Arabic (Written) | Message 116 of 168 07 January 2013 at 8:31am | IP Logged | ||
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Here's what I did last week (you can read it also, along with info on other languages
browsing my personal log) Arabic - MSA *FSI Modern Written Arabic Volume I, lessons 1-4 In fact they contain material I’ve already learnt some time ago. But I think it’s still better to master it through extensive drills in this book. I read all the four chapters and did them using Listening-Repeating method. *Watching: Al Jazeera I watched news broadcast not understanding much, well, sincerely speaking I was able to catch only some words. I was able also to read some words appearing on screen. But I think it’s really important to get early to listening. *“A New Arabic Grammar” (Haywood, Nahmad), chapter 1: Orthography. Phonetics. Punctuation. It was in fact a review of some basic information about the language. First week brought the first matter to be cleared. When some time ago I started to learn MSA (but then stopped after a few units), I studied from “Teach Yourself Arabic” (by J. Smart and F. Altorfer). They say that the Classical Arabic had a set of three case endings for the nouns, but nowadays they are largely ignored. Only so-called indefinite accusative (called accusative marker) is used because this shows in the script. It’s an alif attached to the end of the noun or adjective. Technically it’s accompanied by two slashes above the preceding consonant but in practice they are usually omitted. Example: كتاب, كتابا (kitaab, kitaaban) But the FSI course uses the other cases too. I asked on this forum (in the section “Questions about your target languages) and have gotten one answer, not from a native, but that doesn’t mean that less reliable. Here’s a part of this answer: “The cases are used all the time in media. They are an important part of the language. (…) Like the Arabic word for "Also" أيضا. It is always pronounced in the accusative AjDhan, never AyDh or ayDha in MSA.” That’s not exactly the answer. I’m aware that some words or whole phrases go always in accusative, e.g. “ahlan wa sahlan”. Another matter is so-called “nunation”. “TY” book doesn’t mention it at all. FSI – does. Here’s the answer I’ve gotten to my question: “The nunations (…) hand is not heard as often, mostly in certain words that always carries them. (…) Certain reporters use more nunations than others, but it is never used like in books. The ending vowels are just not as important to pronounce.” Does anybody have more info on this? Do TV news presenters really use nunation and cases. I don’t know the language that well yet to be able to differentiate. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Malek Groupie Christmas Island Joined 4345 days ago 60 posts - 76 votes | Message 117 of 168 07 January 2013 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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May I join? I'm doing Modern Hebrew.
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| JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4454 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 118 of 168 07 January 2013 at 8:58pm | IP Logged | ||
Another warm welcome to Team Alef!! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4454 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 119 of 168 07 January 2013 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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Our little team has grown to 17 members and given the experience level of some of our
members it's very likely we'll survive (and even thrive in) 2013 as a team. So unless anyone disagrees, I say we only accept up to three more people who apply for membership this week. If you disagree with having any more than 17 members or with having a limit, please speak soon or forever hold your salaam/shalom :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Malek Groupie Christmas Island Joined 4345 days ago 60 posts - 76 votes | Message 120 of 168 07 January 2013 at 9:11pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks very much, JohannaNYC!
I hope that I'll be a good member. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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