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| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4648 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes  Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 17 of 152 19 February 2013 at 7:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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I took a Lesson 3 test on the Madinah site, and scored 100%.
Today's Anki session was 38 cards with 95% correct answers, while the total number of cards has exceeded 100 today after adding words below. New words The order is IPA pronunciation - Arabic spelling - meaning. Himaar حمار donkey Hisaan حصان horse Maa ماء water Dʒamil جميل beautiful Hadʒar حجر stone Waraq ورقة paper Thaqil ثقيل heavy Xafif خفيفة light (adj.) Edited by Zireael on 24 February 2013 at 12:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4648 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 18 of 152 20 February 2013 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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Since there's no capital letters in Arabic...
ةانت مالك هو كريم how do you know if it says "you're a queen" or "you're Malika"; "he's generous" or "he's Kareem"? Of course, if I wrote اسمه كريم it'd be obvious, but what happens if I only use a pronoun - how do you know it's a proper name or a general noun? I scored 80% on a Madinah Lesson 4 test, even though I didn’t know some of the words. New words The order is IPA pronunciation - Arabic spelling - meaning. Aina اين where Man مَن who Maða ماذا what Fis في in Min من from Bint بنت daughter, girl Ibn ابن son Ism اسم name Salaam سلام peace Malik ملك king Maalik مالِك owner Malika ةملك queen Bulanda بولندا Poland Edited by Zireael on 24 February 2013 at 12:57pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4648 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 19 of 152 22 February 2013 at 7:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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100% on a Lesson 7 test on Madinah site and 75% on Lesson 11 test (I skipped Lessons 8-10 since they cover material I don’t know yet)
Thursday's Anki session: 41 cards, 100% correct. Total deck size: 122 cards. Some more sentences. Letters in red are Sarah's corrections. (Damn retyping an entire sentence just to get the first alif fixed in the last sentence, and I can't make it red either) انا من بولند و انتِ من اليمن امي و ابوي لا يفهمون اللغة الهربية نا لا يوجبني ماذا يوجبنك انتِ؟ أنا أقرأكياب I had to change the Arabic font so that it looks 'correct' to Sarah (it's now Arabic Typesetting instead of Fixed Simplified Arabic). Also, I've started using Open Office Writer since it's much better than the fixed Arabic font sizes in Word 2000. Sarah confirmed that Bulanda بولندا doesn't take an article, unlike اليمن or الصين or اليابان To sum up what I know of Arabic sentences already, adjectives come after the noun they describe and the pronouns seem to come at the end of the questions. Spanish also has adjectives come after the noun, so I'm not surprised. She also told me to „just focus on the things” she gave me, i.e. the verbs I was supposed to conjugate. I conjugated all of them already except the last one, yastaqbel يستقبل . I'll do it over the weekend, after I pass an English exam for work. Today's Anki session: 12 cards, 100% correct. 14 cards coming in tomorrow. New words The order is IPA pronunciation - Arabic spelling - meaning. Samak سمك fish Tabib طبيب doctor EDIT: To see the red corrections, head over to UniLang. I can't change font color here. Edited by Zireael on 24 February 2013 at 12:57pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4648 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 20 of 152 23 February 2013 at 8:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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I curse the diversity of Yemeni Arabic when trying to establish the phonological values for the vowels. So far, I know that vowel length does not matter in Yemeni and that some dialects delete some vowels, with no apparent rules.
According to Arabic Wikipedia (via Google Translate, I’m not that good yet), Sana’ani dialect pronounces dad as /za/. So I can rule it out too. I’m starting to suspect I’m learning some sort of a cross between MSA and Yemeni, since Sarah doesn’t correct me regardless of whether I pronounce ذلك /dalika/ or /daleka/, nor هؤلاء /haola/ or /haula/. Or it there so much variation in Yemen that she genuinely doesn’t care? Also, I've found the 'Record your voice' function in Anki and have been putting an old mic to use this afternoon. I think I've recorded all the words and phrases I can pronounce, which is to mean 95% of my Anki deck. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4449 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 21 of 152 23 February 2013 at 8:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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How do you say "when" and "how" in Yemeni? I'm starting to practice with people that
speak or are learning different dialects or MSA and I'm trying to learn the question words in all the dialects since they're different from Egyptian, which also happens to put the question words at the end. Yemeni hasn't come up yet, but I want to be ready when/if it does. As for diversity in vowel sounds, even within Egypt they have different vowels in different regions. It's all about those root consonants. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4648 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 22 of 152 24 February 2013 at 1:08pm | IP Logged | ||
"How" is /keif/ and we didn't get to "when" yet... (Note to self: ask Sarah on Monday) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4648 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 23 of 152 25 February 2013 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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Lesson 4, 25.02.2012
Time for past tense and imperative mood. Past tense conjugation is easier than present, since you don't have to worry about the beginnings. The default form is, as usual, for 3rd sg. The endings are -tu, -t, -ta, -a, -u or -na; other endings rhyme with the pronoun, i.e. 'you went' is انتَ ذهبت anta ðahabta and 'they (dual) went' is انتما ذهبتما antuma ðahabtuma. The imperative is even easier, as there are only 5 persons to worry about - male singular, female singular, dual (i.e. هما), plural male (i.e. انتم) and plural female (i.e. انتن). Male singular has no ending, female singular has a standard -i appended, dual has an -a, plural male takes -u and plural female takes -na, so there are no surprises here. All imperatives begin with an alif, so they are rather easy. New words The order is: IPA pronunciation - Arabic spelling - meaning. oheb أحب he loves ahbba احب he loved aheb احب love! ðahaba ذهب he went mashe مشىَ he walked kataba كتب he wrote iðhab اذهب go! iktob اكتب write! is'al اسأل ask! Sorry, Johanna, the hour flew by so fast I forgot to ask about 'when'. Anyone knows where can I get the Yemeni Arabic book by Hamdi Qafisheh? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4648 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 24 of 152 26 February 2013 at 11:13am | IP Logged | ||
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Spent half an hour this morning recording for 150 Anki cards, since the function I used on Saturday doesn't save the sound file. Blame Anki creator for putting two nearly identical functions in...
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