Antanas Tetraglot Groupie Lithuania Joined 4812 days ago 91 posts - 172 votes Speaks: Lithuanian*, English, Russian, German Studies: FrenchB1, Spanish
| Message 57 of 102 11 May 2014 at 8:17pm | IP Logged |
vermillon wrote:
QiuJP wrote:
I think Assimil has released a new Japanese course for French speakers: Le Japonais |
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It is only the reunion of the old Japonais sans peine, volumes 1 & 2, in a single book. It is now available as a Super Pack, but that's about the only good thing about this new version, so for anyone already having the old versions, there is no need to look after this new release. |
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You are both right and wrong. They say in their blog that recordings are 20% new in comparison to the older ones. And that only what concerns dialogues. Also, they recorded texts of 14 revision lessons:
3. Parlez-nous des enregistrements. Quelles est la proportion d’enregistrements nouveaux dans cette nouvelle édition ?
C.G. : Pour les dialogues la proportion est de 20%. Il s’agit soit de dialogues entièrement nouveaux soit de dialogues modifiés pour des raisons de vocabulaire. Et il ne faut surtout pas oublier les enregistrements de dialogues de révision (qui n’existaient pas dans la précédente édition), à la fin de chaque leçon de révision : soit 14 enregistrements de 10 phrases chacun.
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vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4678 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German
| Message 58 of 102 11 May 2014 at 10:34pm | IP Logged |
Ah, thanks for the correction! Every lesson I checked was entirely the same, but somehow reading the twenty first lessons today, I've had the impression some stuff was new to me. (and it is also better than what memory suggested)
The recording for the revision dialogues is also more than welcome. But of course, if you already have the old edition, it's still not worth investing in the new one. I didn't have it, so I'm very happy with my purchase. :)
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YnEoS Senior Member United States Joined 4254 days ago 472 posts - 893 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Cantonese, Japanese, French, Hungarian, Czech, Swedish, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish
| Message 59 of 102 27 June 2014 at 5:49pm | IP Logged |
For those who have been eagerly waiting, Assimil announced that Khmer and Cantonese will be released towards the end of august.
http://blog.assimil.com/nouveautes-assimil-automne-2014
Edited by YnEoS on 27 June 2014 at 5:51pm
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Bobb328 Groupie Canada Joined 4585 days ago 52 posts - 78 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 60 of 102 28 June 2014 at 8:28pm | IP Logged |
Have they said anything about releasing an English version of Using German/Russian? I'd be very interested in both.
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Paco Senior Member Hong Kong Joined 4277 days ago 145 posts - 251 votes Speaks: Cantonese*
| Message 61 of 102 30 June 2014 at 12:28pm | IP Logged |
Cantonese? Even I don't know how to write "correct" Cantonese! I am curious...
I have listened to the clips. It seems that at least 1 of the speakers is not native, and
the only voice I think acceptable is the very clear, bright female one.
But I might be wrong. Perhaps it is how Cantonese is spoken beyond my place and time, how
people now lived in Chinatown spoke it and teach their sons and daughters; this I do not
know.
Edited by Paco on 02 July 2014 at 11:43pm
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Al-Malik Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member United Kingdom arabicgenie.com Joined 7134 days ago 221 posts - 294 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German*, Spanish, Arabic (Written), Dutch, French, Arabic (classical) Studies: Mandarin, Persian
| Message 62 of 102 30 June 2014 at 4:59pm | IP Logged |
Assimil has uploaded audio for three lessons for the Cantonese course:
https://soundcloud.com/assimil/sets/le-cantonais
Even with my limited knowledge of Cantonese, I can clearly tell that the speakers sound extremely peculiar.
A native speaker I consulted agrees with Paco's assessment that at least one of the speakers is non-native (or speaks some dialect very far removed from the standard) and the others speak in a very unnatural manner. It's a shame, as I was looking forward to this course.
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newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6379 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map
| Message 63 of 102 01 July 2014 at 1:49pm | IP Logged |
Paco,
In your opinion, is the pronunciation bad enough that people should avoid the course?
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YnEoS Senior Member United States Joined 4254 days ago 472 posts - 893 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Cantonese, Japanese, French, Hungarian, Czech, Swedish, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish
| Message 64 of 102 01 July 2014 at 4:28pm | IP Logged |
I was also a bit worried about the accents, as they sound strange compared to my other Cantonese courses and Hong Kong films that I watch. Too bad, I'll probably still use the course just probably not do much shadowing with it.
Edited by YnEoS on 01 July 2014 at 4:33pm
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