irishpolyglot Nonaglot Senior Member Ireland fluentin3months Joined 5630 days ago 285 posts - 892 votes Speaks: Irish, English*, French, Esperanto, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Sign Language Studies: Mandarin
| Message 17 of 52 30 July 2010 at 12:44am | IP Logged |
OBSERVATION
My 2 week "preparations" are definitely not going too well! This has nothing to do with Hungarian difficulties. This "out of sight, out of mind" concept is one reason it takes so many people a very long time to learn a language. I've "had the time", but I've been focused on other things since Hungarian is not "necessary" for me right now.
This is one reason why more exposure to natives from the start really is necessary. Hungarian is still just a list of rules in some books to me right now, but this time next week it will be an actual language spoken by human beings and this will change my motivation completely. Especially if I am very careful to make sure I get into the right routines of using the language asap.
Even before travelling I achieved a better command over Portuguese while living in Paris, by meeting up with as many Brazilians as possible.
For someone academically minded, perhaps studying can be very beneficial, but the likes of me need something concrete to make this a reality in our lives. Apart from the summary given in the previous page based on an hour or two's study, I haven't learned any Hungarian!
I'll have lots of dead time on Sunday at the airport and flying etc. so I will likely end up doing my typical last-minute cram of phrases then. In future I will not be attempting a study-preparation period like this again. If I start learning a language while abroad, I will (as I so strongly suggest on my blog) attempt to speak it from day one with natives, whether they are immigrants I can meet or if I speak to them online.
Study just puts a language in the wrong context for me. It needs to be spoken to be a language.
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liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6226 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written)
| Message 18 of 52 08 August 2010 at 2:03pm | IP Logged |
Benny,
I too am trying to learn Hungarian...but I'm giving myself longer than 3 months! As per your advice I started a blog
which is documenting my quest to conquer this challenging language. Anyone, feel free to visit it at:
http://mainlymagyar.wordpress.com/
any words of encouragement or advice will be gladly appreciated!!
Keep up the good work Benny. You are an inspiration to the rest of us!!
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brian91 Senior Member Ireland Joined 5441 days ago 335 posts - 437 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 19 of 52 09 August 2010 at 12:00pm | IP Logged |
Just discovered this thread as I have been away for a while. Will be following this challenge with great interest too
as Hungarian fascinates me. I think I first encountered it in a Monty Python sketch ("my hovercraft is full of eels").
Also, a neighbour of ours is in Budapest at the moment because you need very high points to do medicine in
Ireland. Plus eastern Europe in general fascinates me.
If you really like the language you can join this group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?
gid=3390345526 :D
Edited by brian91 on 09 August 2010 at 12:01pm
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irishpolyglot Nonaglot Senior Member Ireland fluentin3months Joined 5630 days ago 285 posts - 892 votes Speaks: Irish, English*, French, Esperanto, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Sign Language Studies: Mandarin
| Message 20 of 52 10 August 2010 at 10:42am | IP Logged |
@Liddy Thanks! Your blog looks interesting - I'll be reading along and I'm sure your realisations will help me too!
@Brian Glad you'll be joining along the story to see how far I get! My speaking starts this week (eek!!)
That group link isn't working - some Facebook pages limit their views only to certain countries. If you manage the group you may want to change the settings to allow Hungarian IP addresses to look at it ;)
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DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6148 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian
| Message 21 of 52 10 August 2010 at 11:05am | IP Logged |
Very interested to read about your Hungarian progress. I find an old post of mine that compared some Hungarian pronoun cases to Irish.
Hungarian Instrumental
Irish Hungarian
Liom (with me) = Velem
Leat (with you) = Veled
Leis (with him) = Vele \ Önnel
Lei (with her) = Vele \ Önnel
Linn (with us) = Velünk
Libh (with you.pl) = Veletek
Leo (with them) = Velük \ Önökkel
Hungarian Suppressive
Irish Hungarian
Orm (on me) = Rajtam
Ort (on you) = Rajtad
Air (on him) = Rajta \ Önön
Uirthi(on her) = Rajta \ Önön
Orainn (on us) = Rajtunk
Oraibh (on you.pl)= Rajtatok
Orthu (on them) = Rajtuk \ Önökön
I've been dabbling on and off in Hungarian for a number of years. What resources are you using for your study ?
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irishpolyglot Nonaglot Senior Member Ireland fluentin3months Joined 5630 days ago 285 posts - 892 votes Speaks: Irish, English*, French, Esperanto, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Sign Language Studies: Mandarin
| Message 22 of 52 10 August 2010 at 11:13am | IP Logged |
Thanks Daragh! Yes, "preposition conjugation" (for lack of a better term) is something that immediately struck me as another thing that is given a lot of attention in books I am looking at but seems totally normal and straightforward to me thanks to Gaeilge :)
I just grabbed a few books from Amazon and am happy to see that the previous resident of the apartment I've just moved into left Colloquial Hungarian and Teach Yourself Hungarian for me! I've also got some phrasebooks and SRS (Anki) to study on my phone for vocab.
As you'll know if you read my blog my main "resource" is human beings ;) I'll be out and practising what I know this week!
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brian91 Senior Member Ireland Joined 5441 days ago 335 posts - 437 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 23 of 52 10 August 2010 at 11:28am | IP Logged |
irishpolyglot wrote:
That group link isn't working - some Facebook pages limit their views only to certain
countries. If you manage the group you may want to change the settings to allow Hungarian IP addresses to look at
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Woops, sorry. The name os the group is "Hungarians Speak the Coolest Language Ever!!!!" That's four exclamation
marks, so it's an enthusiastic group.
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liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6226 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written)
| Message 24 of 52 19 August 2010 at 12:27pm | IP Logged |
What's the latest , Benny?? Mi ujsag? Mit megy a magyarul??
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