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akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5408 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh
| Message 9 of 38 02 February 2011 at 11:29pm | IP Logged |
CS :
I learned mostly through Lambdin's Introduction to Sahidic Coptic (published in the 80's, almost complete on Google books). It provides 30 short lessons, clear explanations and a lot of exercises and readings to practice your new skills.
Layton's Coptic in 20 lessons (published in 2007) is also a really good book. The grammar is more detailed than in Lambdin so you get a better view of the language as a whole.
The only useful Dictionary is that of Crum, it has been put online here.
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| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6122 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 10 of 38 03 February 2011 at 6:50pm | IP Logged |
I still only see the boxes on your coptic font but it appears that you and Ellasevia can see the font. Is there something I need to install to be able to see it?
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| akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5408 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh
| Message 12 of 38 28 February 2011 at 11:40am | IP Logged |
I've been a bit lazy with my Coptic studies lately, I'll try to post more often from now on.
VII.
ⲘⲚⲚⲤⲀ ⲚⲀⲒ ⲞⲨⲆⲞⲄⲘⲀ ⲈⲒ ⲈⲂⲞⲖ ϨⲒⲦⲘⲠⲢⲢⲞ ⲀⲨⲄⲞⲨⲤⲦⲞⲤ ⲈⲦⲢⲈⲦⲞⲒⲔⲞⲨⲘⲈⲚH ⲦHⲢⲤ ⲤϨⲀⲒⲤ ⲚⲤⲀⲚⲈⲤⲦⲘⲈ.
ⲀϤⲦⲰⲞⲨⲚⲆⲈ ⲚϬⲒⲒⲰⲤHⲪ, ⲠⲀⲦⲘⲚⲦϨⲖⲖⲞ ⲈⲦⲚⲀⲚⲞⲨⲤ, ⲀϤϪⲒ ⲚⲦⲠⲀⲢⲐⲈⲚⲞⲤ ⲚⲤⲈⲘⲚH, ⲀϤⲈⲒⲚⲈ ⲘⲘⲞⲤ ⲈϨⲢⲀⲒ ⲈⲠⲈϤHⲒ ⲘⲘⲒⲚ ⲘⲘⲞϤ ⲈⲂHⲐⲖⲈⲈⲘ, ⲈⲀⲤϨⲰⲚ ⲈϨⲞⲨⲚ ⲈⲘⲒⲤⲈ. ⲀϤⲀⲠⲞⲄⲢⲀⲪH ⲘⲠⲈϤⲢⲀⲚ ϨⲀⲦⲚⲚⲈⲄⲢⲀⲘⲀⲦⲈⲨⲤ ⲚⲂHⲐⲖⲈⲈⲘ, ϪⲈⲒⲰⲤHⲪ ⲠϢHⲢⲈ ⲚⲒⲀⲔⲰⲂ ⲘⲚⲘⲀⲢⲒⲀ ⲦⲈϤⲤϨⲒⲘⲈ ⲘⲚⲒⲤ ⲠⲈⲨϢHⲢⲈ, ⲈⲚⲈⲈⲂⲞⲖⲚⲈ ϨⲘⲠHⲒ ⲚⲆⲀⲨⲈⲒⲆ, ⲠⲀⲦⲈⲪⲨⲖH ⲚⲈⲒⲞⲨⲆⲀ.
ⲀⲘⲀⲢⲒⲀ ⲦⲀⲘⲀⲀⲨ ⲘⲒⲤⲈ ⲘⲘⲞⲒ ⲚϨⲞⲨⲚ ⲈⲠⲘⲀ ⲚϬⲞⲒⲖⲈ ⲚⲂHⲐⲖⲈⲈⲘ ϨⲒⲦⲞⲨⲰϤ ⲘⲠⲦⲀⲪⲞⲤ ⲚϨⲢⲀⲬHⲖ ⲦⲈⲤϨⲒⲘⲈ ⲚⲒⲀⲔⲰⲂ ⲠⲠⲀⲦⲢⲒⲀⲢⲬHⲤ, ⲠⲈⲒⲰⲦ ⲚⲒⲰⲤHⲪ ⲘⲚⲂⲈⲚⲒⲀⲘⲒⲚ.
VIII.
ⲀⲠⲤⲀⲦⲀⲚⲀⲤ ⲤⲨⲘⲂⲞⲨⲖⲈⲨⲈ ϨⲘⲠHⲦ ⲚϨHⲢⲰⲆHⲤ ⲠⲚⲞϬ, ⲠⲒⲰⲦ ⲚⲀⲢⲬHⲖⲀⲞⲤ [end lost]
VII. After that, a decree of the emperor Augustus came out, that the entire mankind should register (litt. write herself) according to her cities.
So Joseph, who was a good old man (litt. the one of a good old age), rised up, took the Holy Virgin and brought her to his own home in Bethleem. She was close to give birth. He registered his name before the scribes of Bethleem, i. e. "Joseph, son of Jacob, and his wife Mary and their son, Jesus, of the house of David, from the tribe of Juda".
My mother Mary give me birth in the inn of Bethleem near the tomb of Rachel, the wife of Jacob the Patriarch, the father of Joseph and Benjamin.
VIII. Satan gave counsel in the heart of Herod the Great, the father of Archelaus [...]
No real challenge in this part, it is still a copy of the Gospel.
Still, it prevented me to forget the so-called Inflected infinitive :
ⲦⲢⲀⲤⲰⲦⲘ that I hear
ⲦⲢⲈⲔⲤⲰⲦⲘ that you (masc.) hear
ⲦⲢⲈⲤⲰⲦⲘ that you (fem.) hear
ⲦⲢⲈϤⲤⲰⲦⲘ that he hears
ⲦⲢⲈⲤⲤⲰⲦⲘ that she hears
ⲦⲢⲈⲚⲤⲰⲦⲘ that we hear
ⲦⲢⲈⲦⲈⲦⲚⲤⲰⲦⲘ that you (pl.) hear
ⲦⲢⲈⲨⲤⲰⲦⲘ that they hear
ⲦⲢⲈⲠⲢⲰⲘⲈⲤⲰⲦⲘ that the man hears
SO Ϥ-ⲞⲨⲰϢ Ⲉ-ⲦⲢⲀ-ⲂⲰⲔ, he wants-to that I leave.
Edited by akkadboy on 28 February 2011 at 11:41am
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| akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5408 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh
| Message 13 of 38 02 March 2011 at 8:04pm | IP Logged |
So, this now a bilingual log, Coptic and Turkish together.
The urge to learn Turkish came to me last week when browsing through the FSi language courses available online. I read a bit of the Turkish and as the language seemed awesome, here I am !
My goal is mostly reading fluency but obviously I will aslo try to develop some listening/speaking/writing fluency.
I am (or, better said, was) totally new to Turkish apart from the fact that I studied Manchu during a few months. But as these two languages may not even be related, I doubt it will help (except the fact that it gave me some exposure to an agglutinative language).
At first, I will try to finish the old Teach Yourself Turkish by G. Lewis. It seems to be highly estimated and I like the way it is written (I have trouble to handle dialog-based textbooks). Along with the Teach Yourself book, I'll try to read some "real" Turkish (newspaper, Harry Potter, etc).
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5847 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 14 of 38 02 March 2011 at 8:12pm | IP Logged |
Welcome as my new teammmate in the team yumusak "G"! I will try to keep an eye on your log. I have now studied Turkish for almost three years and even if I took the descision to change target languages I will remain interested in people sudying and posting about Turkish. :)
Fasulye
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| akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5408 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh
| Message 15 of 38 02 March 2011 at 8:17pm | IP Logged |
I am currently on lesson 4 of TY.
Lessons 1 and 2 were easy but the third one took me a long time. It introduced a lot of new grammar items and a lot of new vocab, so things were getting tougher and I began to mix the Verb I with the Verb II endings and the possessive suffixes. I reread the lesson carefully and things are clearer now.
Today I did lesson 4, seemed so much easier than lesson 3 !
I also began to make an Anki pack as my command of the vocab is not so good (especially the verb list in lesson 3).
So after three days studying Turkish, I must say I am really, really pleased with the language. I like the way it looks like when written, I like the way it sounds and I like the grammar !
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| akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5408 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh
| Message 16 of 38 02 March 2011 at 8:21pm | IP Logged |
Fasulye wrote:
Welcome as my new teammmate in the team yumusak "G"! I will try to keep an eye on your log. I have now studied Turkish for almost three years and even if I took the descision to change target languages I will remain interested in people sudying and posting about Turkish. :)
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Thanks Fasulye !
I read parts of your log and it has been a truly inspiring reading !
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