Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5334 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 9 of 62 10 January 2012 at 10:14pm | IP Logged |
Wow, that is some serious work right there. I'm impressed!
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drsarvo Diglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 4712 days ago 143 posts - 149 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Russian
| Message 10 of 62 10 January 2012 at 11:04pm | IP Logged |
Did I mention that this is the third time I have to search the word церковь (church) in the dictionary? Some
words just are slippery :)
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drsarvo Diglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 4712 days ago 143 posts - 149 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Russian
| Message 11 of 62 11 January 2012 at 4:22pm | IP Logged |
It seems to me that we could be experiencing the Mafalda Syndrome. I explain:
Mafalda is a very popular Argentinian comic strip character, created by Argentinian cartoonist Quino. She is a very clever girl who lives in Buenos Aires with her family. Her history is set in the mid 1960s.
At a very early age she is interested in world events, politics, antiwar demonstrations, Vietnam war, etc.
When she is 4, she says that she has already begun to learn reading in school, but so far she is only able to read "mi mamá me mima" (my mother loves me) "Memo asea su moño" (Willie washes his tie) and simple statements like that. But she is impatient to know what are the news about Kennedy, The Cuban missile crisis, Krushev, Israel!
So she handles a newspaper and have a glimpse on it, only to find out for certain that Kennedy's mom does not love him, and that Castro does not wash his tie! :)
So, I'd advice patience and persistent hard work with Russian and other languages (specially with Russian, which apparently is a bone harder to bite than expected), so after about 500 hours of study we should be able to understand far more than кто это? это книга.
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drsarvo Diglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 4712 days ago 143 posts - 149 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Russian
| Message 12 of 62 11 January 2012 at 4:30pm | IP Logged |
Besides, from my experience with English, I think that language learning is not a linear accumulative phenomenon, but that at some point you reach a threshold and more or less suddenly you are able to write, read, speak and listen to (and apparently even dreaming on) the language you are learning. It depends also on the exposition you have at that language (which is no longer a problem since we have the internet) and how often you can practice your skills.
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drsarvo Diglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 4712 days ago 143 posts - 149 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Russian
| Message 13 of 62 11 January 2012 at 4:33pm | IP Logged |
But is also certain that you don't need to wait until you have advanced skills to begin practice: as a toddler, you can begin your walking attempts even if you stumble and wobble.
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Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6620 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish
| Message 14 of 62 11 January 2012 at 4:59pm | IP Logged |
drsarvo wrote:
Besides, from my experience with English, I think that language learning is not a linear accumulative phenomenon, but that at some point you reach a threshold and more or less suddenly you are able to write, read, speak and listen to (and apparently even dreaming on) the language you are learning. It depends also on the exposition you have at that language (which is no longer a problem since we have the internet) and how often you can practice your skills. |
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I agree. I often go weeks and months feeling like I'm making no progress whatsoever. Then suddenly something clicks and I can understand all sorts of things. It seems magical, like it happened all by itself over night, but of course it is because of all that hard work. I've noticed the same phenomenon with exercising. I can exercise for a long time without noticing any changes, then suddenly, I have muscles.
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drsarvo Diglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 4712 days ago 143 posts - 149 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Russian
| Message 15 of 62 11 January 2012 at 9:46pm | IP Logged |
Heré's an open question: how do you people think Russian has changed in the last 20 years, since the fall of the Soviet Union?
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5056 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 16 of 62 11 January 2012 at 9:58pm | IP Logged |
Many words came into the language, but the grammar and phonology remained the same.
Книга не кто, а что.
Edited by Марк on 11 January 2012 at 10:01pm
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