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| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4630 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes  Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 41 of 203 29 May 2013 at 2:29pm | IP Logged |
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As for the goals: Since the Asian team challenge will be on reading, I'll try to do a
lot of that for all my languages (Including Norwegian)! Norwegian: - Finish chapter 2 and do at least chapter 3 of På vei - Finish watching Season 1 of Dag (if possible with English subs) and re-watch it with Norwegian subs (I already have them all for season 1) - Watch 1 or 2 movies subbed in English (I have the three Fritt Vilt) - Try to read a bit of Klartale Korean: - Do 5 to 10 grammar points and write 5 sentences per point (every month chllenge from now on. Thanks Renate!) - Read 3-4 논문 - Watch a few movies without subs - Get some new convos at the Polyglot Café if I can go there - Read at least a bit the Little Prince that I got 2 years ago Japanese: - Do 5 grammar points and write 5 sentences per point (wanted to do it this month but couldn’t find the time) - Read the newspapers daily. - Listen to the NHK Radio more often - Read Read Read! For the month’s challenge, I’ve given myself the goal of trying to finish to read the 2 books of Kafka by mid-July at most. Chinese: - Do at least 5 grammar points and write 5 sentences per point - Read 1 or 2 stories from my reader. - Continue watching series and start again watching Chinese subbed Chinese series - Write on Weibo regularly - Try to talk at the Polyglot Café if I go there. All: - I will be out of school again so I will have to rebuild a routine from the start which might be difficult. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4630 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 42 of 203 31 May 2013 at 2:07pm | IP Logged |
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Here's my challenge for this month. Being in a hurry right now, I'll post it on the
team wall later (tomorrow probably) Chinese: 1.又...又... - 他能说又中文又法语。--> 他又能说中文又能说法语。 - 她又高又有意思。--> 她人又长的高性格又有趣。 - 你又不友好人又没意思。--> 他既不友好人也没有意思。 - 我觉得她又多嘴又丑恶。-->我觉得她不但多 嘴而且可恶。 - 我听说这个楼又便宜又高。--> No correction 2. 总是/老是 - 我到鲁昂去的时候总是上火车。--> 我到鲁昂去的时候总是坐火车。 - 他总是在六点回家。--> no correction - 你喝啤酒的时候，次日你老是在十二点起床。 --> ㅡ每次你喝啤酒，第二天你总是要到十二点才 起床。 - 我老是想学语言。--> 我总是想学语言。 - 你们总是忘记我们的约会。--> No correction 3. 离 - 我家离学校很远。--> No correction - 这个餐厅离火车站有点儿远。--> No correction - 法国离德国很近。--> No correction - 影剧院离我朋友的家非常远。--> No correction - 机场离宾馆不这么远。--> 机场里宾馆不是这么远的。 4.还 - 我觉得这个电影还可以。--> 我觉得这个电影还可以。 - 她不是漂亮的人，可是她还好。-->他不是漂 亮的人，可是她的性格还是挺好的。 - 这个葡萄酒不最好，但是还行。-->这个葡萄 酒不算(someone put 是 instead of 算)最好，但是 还行。 - 你的小猫还可爱，可我的猫更可爱。--> 你的小猫还算可爱，可我的猫更可爱。 - 她的儿子跟我一样。不很高可是还好。-->她 的儿子跟我一样，个子不是很高可是还好。 5.等等 - 香蕉，葡萄，西瓜等等，我都可以吃。可我最 爱的是葡萄。--> No correction - 我想去中国，泰国，印尼等等。--> No correction - 我学中文，挪威语，日语等。-->我正在学中 文挪威语，日语等。 - 明天她要去很多地方：学校，在餐厅看男朋友 ，火车站等。-->明天他要去很多地方：学校 ，去餐 厅看男朋友，火车站等。 6.或者 - 这个考试是在星期一或者星期二。--> 这个考试是在星期一或者星期二举行。 - 我会喝茶或者咖啡，可是我比较喜欢橙汁。--& gt;No correction -“今天，你要看见小王或者小李吗？”--> 今天，你要去看小王或者小李吗？ -“明天我做你的功课或者你做我的功课？”-- > No correction - 在生日我受了一个精选：点间去巴黎或者待这 儿。--> 2 people said they did not understand but I meant : "For my birthday I got a choice: Either go to Paris or stay here" Korean 1.~자마자 - 그 남자는 여자친구 생기자마자 항상 다른 여자를 좋아하져요. -->그 남자는 여자친구가 생기자마 자 항상 다른 여자가 좋아져요. I meant "He starts liking another girl" but I think it was corrected as "Another girl starts liking him no? - 집에 도착하자마자 화장실에 갈 거예요. --> No correction - 나가자마자 비 왔어요. --> 나가자마자 비가 왔어요. - 일본어를 들어자마자 일본에 있었을때의 생각 났어요. --> 일본어를 듣자마자 일본에 있었을 때가 생각 났어요. - 일을 끝나자마자 친구를 만나러 갈게요. --> 일이 끄나자마자 친구를 만나러 갈게요. 2. ~나 보다/~(으)ㄴ가 보다 - 학교에 도착하면 아무도 없어서 수업은 벌써 시작 했나 봐요. -->학교에 도착하면 아무도 없는 것 이 수업이 벌써 시작했나 봐요. - 좋은 아이디어 인가 봐요. --> 좋은 아이디어인가 봐요. - 친구가 전화를 안 받아서 바쁜가 봐요. -->친구가 전화를 안 받는 게 바쁜가 봐요. - 아버님은 화나서 아직 안 피웠나 봐요. -->No correction - 여기서 차 많으니까 앞에 고장났나봐요. --> 여기에 차가 많은 게 앞에 (차가) 고장났나 봐요. 3. ~(으)ㄹ 뻔 했다 - 그 여자는 모르는 남자한테 사랑하라고 말할 뻔 했다. --> No correction - 그 이야기를 들으면 믿을 뻔 했어요. --> 그 이야기를 듣고 믿을 뻔 했어요. - 그렇게 나쁜성적 받았을 때는 뭔가 때릴 뻔 했어요. --> 그렇게 나쁜 성적을 받았을 때는 (누구 를?) 때릴 뻔 했어요. - 너 떡뿐에 이 영화를 안 봤어요. 근데 볼 뻔 했어요. --> 너 덕분에 이 영화를 안 봤어. - 통화 중 이였는데 잘 뻔 했어요. --> No correction Got nobody who corrected that from now on... 4. ~(으)려나 보다 / ~(으)려고 하나 보다 - 이 팀은 축구 하려나 봐요.--> - 우리 아빠가 요즘 영화를 별로 안 보고 이라고 했는데 지금은 보려고 하나 봐요. --> - «아까는 자살 하려나 본 사람 있었는데... 뭘 해야 할 지 몰랐어요.» --> - 우리가다음 주에파리에 가려고 했는데 흘려나 봐서 단념 했어요. --> - 거기에 기다리고 있는 수상한 사람은 누가 죽으려나 봐죠? --> 5. ~(으)ㄹ 수 밖에 없다 - 그 남자를 좋아 하지 않지만 똑같은 대학교에서 배워서 다시 만날 수 밖에 없어요. --> - 흡연자들은 피우지말라고 해도 피울 수 밖에 없다고 해요. --> - 카페를 마시고 싶었는데 없어서 차 마실 수 밖에 없나 봐요. --> - «돌아 갈때는 부모님은 자고 있어서 조용 할 수 밖에 없다. 답답 해!» --> - 쉬는 시간에 «뭐 할까?»라고 생각 하면 «언어를 공부 할 수 밖에 없지!»라고 생각 해요. --> 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4630 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 43 of 203 14 July 2013 at 11:04pm | IP Logged |
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Wow, it's been a while I haven't posted anything. I'm gonna do a quick update for
everything and then go into details even it might be boring for most people. I'm going to do one post per language since there's a lot to say. I'll start tonight but not sure if I'll do it all in one shot or not. I don't wanna miss anything All: I've maintained most of my languages and practiced quite a lot japanese and Korean in the past month. I've also started to read more but am still not reading enough I think. I have started reading in Spanish to improve a bit without studying and I am finding it quite easy. I do miss some details about the story but can follow rather easily. I am also getting more and more attracted to Indonesian for some reason even though I am not exposed to it at all. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4630 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 44 of 203 14 July 2013 at 11:14pm | IP Logged |
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Norwegian:
I haven't been doing much Norwegian seriously those past few weeks but I've had a a beginning of June "relatively" effective. The pronunciation seems to be pretty much down even though I must sound weird. Nowadays I'm trying to get myself exposed to more Norwegian but It seems to be hard. I've been listening to På Vei's audio a lot and checking the book itself too to try to improve a bit at the same time. I've also been doing a "Norwegian Beginner sentences" deck on Memrise. A bit different, but a bit related too: I just came back from a 4-day trip in Copenhagen where my girlfriend is at the moment. Even though I mostly spoke Korean (since I was with her 24/7), I enjoyed a lot looking at all the signs and understanding some things here and there. I even understood half an ad (about printing from Internet or something like that) and it made me happy like a kid. I've also asked a price in Danish (if it's the same as Norwegian : Hva koster det?) but actually had to apologize and ask again in English since I did not understand the answer... Well anyway, it made me realize I could have enjoyed even more the trip if I had studied harder my Norwegian. I've thus decided to get it on for real! More on that as soon as I'll have actually started to see some results 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4630 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 45 of 203 14 July 2013 at 11:24pm | IP Logged |
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Korean:
For the June-July challenge, I was planning on reading the whole "The little prince" in Korean by even though I worked on it well the first few days, I sidetracked and started reading more chinese. I am studying it slowly though and trying to go back to beginner's lessons to make my vocabulary grow a bit and fill the numerous holes I have in it. I am also learning all the vocabulary related to apartments, houses, landscapes and such because I will start my internship soon and I will have to do some check-in of lofts, apartments and such to Asians (mostly) but also create some contracts with real- estate agencies from such countries as Korea, Japan, China (mostly Japan it seems). My girlfriend (who is korean) left France about a month ago so I've been speaking less but writing more in Korean. As said in the previous post about Norwegian though, I just spent 4 days with her and it was an incredible pleasure. My Korean was flowing out easily, I could talk (and impress!) her Korean friends there. However, she is now going to go back to Korea in 3 weeks and not knowing when we'll be able to meet again, we decided to just stay friends... we'll see how well that goes... Anyway, for the rest of this month and the next one coming, I plan on continuing build up my vocabulary and start again some grammar study too (I've been listening to the 서 울대학교 한국어 2 audio. I've realized that my Korean in too sporadic. I've got holes of knowledge where I shouldn't and know stuff that I actually don't need yet. I need to make that more equal. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4630 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 46 of 203 14 July 2013 at 11:38pm | IP Logged |
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Japanese:
Well again a lot has happened but I know I've forgotten stuff I wanted to say/ask so I'll go over everything quickly. My flatmate's back in Japan. It was 6 incredible month with her and even though we started not so close, I believe she's now a dear friend of mine. Her departure was hard but I know I'll go again to Japan and she'll come again to France (she LOVES france for some reason :p) so It's ok. As a result however, I lost my speaking practice partner so I'm afraid my skills are going to go down fast. I've been reading quite a bit however. I've (re)started an RPG in Japanese that I had dropped down because it was too hard to follow but now I'm playing it as if it was in English, not having trouble following the story and small quests. It feels like a good break now and then. I've also read quite a few news articles but lost my rythm since the beginning of July (everybody from exchange going back to their countries). For listening, I haven't watched any serie, TV show, just a tiny bit of manga (not a big fan anymore). I have started listening to some good Japanese "rap" music that I got from a friend at first and then used to find some more. The lyrics are also a really good practice. For those interested : "不可思議/wonderboy"'s 「銀河鉄道の夜」makes me dream (and the others are pretty good too if you like the style). Or also "Zone the Darkness" (赤い靴の少女) As for Korean, I'm studying vocabulary related to houses and apartments but not having much problems in Japanese for that, I'm actually extending to real-estate related vocabulary. Pretty interesting I find actually. I now wish to read even more, go back into reading articles; but above all, I'd like to start again on Kanjis. I however have no idea about how to go about that. Any tips? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4630 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 47 of 203 17 July 2013 at 6:30pm | IP Logged |
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Chinese:
Last but far from being least, this is the language for which I can talk most this time. First of all, I've bought 3 books from the Chinese breeze graded reader series. 1 from level 1 which I've read fully and then listened to 2-3 times, and 2 from level 2 (I just started one of them and working on one chapter per day). I've also just started studying yesterday grammar points and then putting examples sentences on Lang-8. I'm planning on doing 2 per day until I reach a level where most points will have many different usages. Apart from that, I've been working on my HSK3 deck (fully done, just reviews now) and another HSK3 deck with questions from the test (halfway through it) and it's not much work but keeps me serious. I actually have done many things but cannot seems to remember them now. That probably is because a week ago my ex contacted me to ask me whether I'd be interested in translating chinese for one of her colleagues. Obviously I don't have the level but it seems she's got faith in me and thus gave my email to her colleague. I've thus exchange one long email with her.. all in Mandarin! I sent it to my ex first for correction and she did not correct much which was really pleasant！ She sent me and example of what had been done before and it (indeed) seems way out of my league in a sense but at the same time feasible. I'm waiting now for more news about that but if I do get this opportunity, it'd be GREAT practice! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4630 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 48 of 203 17 July 2013 at 6:34pm | IP Logged |
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So... I thought I could endure my wanderlust of starting Indonesian but in the end... I
ended up buying a phrasebook for Italian today! I didn't want to do so for Indonesian because I want to learn it properly, but I want to give Glossika's sentence method a go with a language I'm interested in but don't want to spend too much time on. So I've bought the lonely planet phrasebook with CD and a book of 1001 sentences in Italian. That's about 1400 sentences. I'll have to re-check how this method is supposed to be put in practice, but I think it's gonna be quite interesting. Also, for some reason, I've decided not to tell anybody around me about that experiment. I'm already seen as crazy by most of my friends and this is even above my usual crazyness so figuring out if this works first seems a good idea. Edited by yuhakko on 23 July 2013 at 10:20pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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